From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Paul Menage" <menage@google.com>
Cc: containers@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl,
xemul@openvz.org, pj@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Prefixing cgroup generic control filenames with "cgroup."
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:21:00 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080228142100.2dce0e46.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6599ad830802281406t38e486d8g267df1873bc754c2@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:06:30 -0800
"Paul Menage" <menage@google.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Andrew Morton
> <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe cgroups shouldn't be putting kernel-generated files in places where
> > user-specified files appear?
> >
>
> Well, that API (mixing control files and group directories in the same
> directory namespace) was inherited directly from cpusets.
>
> It wouldn't be hard to throw that away and move all the user-created
> group directories into their own subdirectory, i.e. change the
> existing directory layout from something like:
>
> /mnt/cgroup/
> tasks
> cpu.shares
> memory.limit_in_bytes
> memory.usage_in_bytes
> user_created_groupname1/
> tasks
> cpu.shares
> memory.limit_in_bytes
> memory.usage_in_bytes
> user_created_groupname2/
> tasks
> cpu.shares
> memory.limit_in_bytes
> memory.usage_in_bytes
>
> to something like:
>
> /mnt/cgroup/
> tasks
> cpu.shares
> memory.limit_in_bytes
> memory.usage_in_bytes
> groups/
> user_created_groupname1/
> tasks
> cpu.shares
> memory.limit_in_bytes
> memory.usage_in_bytes
> groups/
> user_created_groupname2/
> tasks
> cpu.shares
> memory.limit_in_bytes
> memory.usage_in_bytes
> groups/
That looks nice.
> That would completely solve the namespace problem, at the cost of a
> little extra verbosity/inelegance for human users (I suspect
> programmatic users would prefer it), and lack of compatibility with
> 2.6.24. I'd also need to make the existing model a mount option so
> that we could keep compatibility with the cpusets filesystem API.
That doesn't. It sounds like cpusets legacy has mucked us up here?
Could we do something like auto-prefixing user-created directories with a
fixed string so that there is no way in which the user can cause a
collision with kernel-created files?
I suppose that would break cpusets back-compatibility as well? If so, we
could do the prefixing only for non-cpusets directories, but that's getting
a bit weird.
> > (Am still thrashing around a bit here without an overview of the overall
> > layout and naming).
>
> Pretty much the same as cpusets, other than the additional
> kernel-generated files in each directory, as provided by the resource
> subsystems. So the same potential problem faced cpusets, but the fact
> that new cpuset features weren't being developed quickly meant the
> problem was less likely to actually bite people.
hm. I guess that all the kernel-generated file names are known up-front
and that they are instantiated early, so if a user tried to create a cgroup
called "tasks", than that would just fail.
But, as you say, later addition of new kernel-created files might collide
with prior userspace installations.
So yet another option would be to promise to prefix all _future_
kernel-generated files with "kern_", and to change the implementation now
to reject any user-created files which start with "kern_". hm.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-28 22:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-28 21:14 [RFC] Prefixing cgroup generic control filenames with "cgroup." Paul Menage
2008-02-28 21:21 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-28 21:28 ` Paul Menage
2008-02-28 21:33 ` serge
2008-02-28 22:06 ` Paul Menage
2008-03-03 8:38 ` Paul Menage
2008-03-03 9:59 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-28 21:40 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-28 22:06 ` Paul Menage
2008-02-28 22:21 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-02-28 22:26 ` Paul Menage
2008-02-29 5:59 ` [RFC] [PATCH] " Paul Menage
2008-02-29 6:20 ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-29 9:34 ` Paul Menage
2008-02-29 15:30 ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-29 17:59 ` Paul Menage
2008-02-29 19:20 ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-28 21:28 ` [RFC] " serge
2008-02-28 23:36 ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-29 1:03 ` Paul Menage
2008-02-29 1:22 ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-29 11:38 ` Xpl++
2008-03-03 7:23 ` Li Zefan
2008-03-03 9:11 ` Paul Menage
2008-03-05 1:24 ` Paul Jackson
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