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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	adobriyan@sw.ru, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Whine about suspicious return values from module's ->init() hook
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:24:02 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200803041424.03092.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080210220906.GG1754@martell.zuzino.mipt.ru>

On Monday 11 February 2008 09:09:06 Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:55:26PM +1100, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > I think you misunderstand.  I proposed that we audit all the code before
> > such a change.  We shouldn't do *anything* until we can estimate the
> > impact this change will have.
>
> With such rate of changes, good luck doing that.

I'm not convinced that people are introducing bugs that fast :)

> > Our users deserve better than "I don't know if this will break anything
> > so I used WARN_ON".  They deserve "we have confidence that this change
> > won't break any existing code".
> >
> > Now, if an audit is impractical or unreliable, we are better off with a
> > WARN_ON.
>
> It's impractical as in it's extremely boring to read every modules init
> function and propagate return values in mind.

Sure, I'd start by writing some filters for all the easy cases.  It'd probably 
only take a day to do them all.

The thing is, every time I do an audit like this, I find all kinds of things 
to fix; it's not actually a useless exercise.

> > But it is still an admission of ignorance.
>
> I love BUG_ON and BUILD_BUG_ON very much but on such scale you can't
> just throw them in.
>
> Here goes version 2 with improved changelog. Let's put in -mm and see
> what happens, then put it in mainline and see what happens.

Sure, I've put it in my tree for the moment.

Thanks,
Rusty.

      reply	other threads:[~2008-03-04  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-04 15:42 [PATCH] Whine about suspicious return values from module's ->init() hook Alexey Dobriyan
2008-02-04 21:15 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-05  3:43 ` Rusty Russell
2008-02-05  3:53   ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-05  6:08     ` Rusty Russell
2008-02-05  6:24       ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-05 22:48         ` Rusty Russell
2008-02-05 23:37           ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-06  6:55             ` Rusty Russell
2008-02-10 22:09               ` [PATCH v2] " Alexey Dobriyan
2008-03-04  3:24                 ` Rusty Russell [this message]

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