From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Devices accessibility control group (v4)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 09:42:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080307084245.GA5004@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47CFAD06.7020501@openvz.org>
On Thu 2008-03-06 11:36:22, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> Greg KH wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 09:15:25PM -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> >> Quoting Greg KH (greg@kroah.com):
> >>> On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 08:23:35PM +0300, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> >>>> Changes from v3:
> >>>> * Ported on 2.6.25-rc3-mm1;
> >>>> * Re-splitted into smaller pieces;
> >>>> * Added more comments to tricky places.
> >>>>
> >>>> This controller allows to tune the devices accessibility by tasks,
> >>>> i.e. grant full access for /dev/null, /dev/zero etc, grant read-only
> >>>> access to IDE devices and completely hide SCSI disks.
> >>> From within the kernel itself? The kernel should not be keeping track
> >>> of the mode of devices, that's what the filesystem holding /dev is for.
> >>> Those modes change all the time depending on the device plugged in, and
> >>> the user using the "console". Why should the kernel need to worry about
> >>> any of this?
> >> These are distinct from the permissions on device files. No matter what
> >> the permissions on the device files, a task in a devcg cgroup which
> >> isn't allowed write to chardev 4:64 will not be able to write to
> >> /dev/ttyS0.
> >
> > Then why not do that from userspace with a different /dev, or with a
> > LSM?
>
> Different dev is not suitable, since task may still call mknod to
> create device it needs and use it. This is not about comfortable
> use, this is about security.
And you may still take out mknod capability...
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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-05 17:23 [PATCH 0/9] Devices accessibility control group (v4) Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-05 17:25 ` [PATCH 1/9] Avoid magic constants in drivers/base/map.c Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-05 17:28 ` [PATCH 2/9] Cleanup the get_gendisk() a bit Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-05 17:32 ` [PATCH 3/9] Add a mode on the struct probe Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-05 17:34 ` [PATCH 4/9] Make kobj_lookup() return the mapping's permissions Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-05 17:37 ` [PATCH 5/9] Make use of permissions, returned by kobj_lookup Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-06 1:13 ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-06 8:48 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-07 9:22 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-07 9:35 ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-07 9:52 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-07 15:59 ` Greg KH
2008-03-07 16:38 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-07 17:01 ` Greg KH
2008-03-07 17:08 ` Al Viro
2008-03-07 17:35 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-03-07 17:57 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-03-07 18:30 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-03-07 19:46 ` Stephen Smalley
2008-03-07 20:57 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-03-07 21:32 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-03-07 18:14 ` Greg KH
2008-03-07 18:50 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-03-08 6:04 ` Greg KH
2008-03-08 21:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-03-09 3:15 ` Greg KH
2008-03-10 20:35 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-03-11 9:57 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-11 17:36 ` Greg KH
2008-03-12 8:26 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-12 13:09 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-03-12 13:18 ` Stephen Smalley
2008-03-12 13:27 ` Stephen Smalley
2008-03-12 14:18 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-03-12 14:15 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-03-12 16:21 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-03-12 13:36 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-05 17:40 ` [PATCH 6/9] Extend the drivers/base/map.c functionality Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-05 17:43 ` [PATCH 7/9] Provide functions to manipulate char device mappings Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-05 17:46 ` [PATCH 8/9] Provide functions to manipulate block " Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-05 17:47 ` [PATCH 9/9] Devices accessibility control group itself Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-06 2:02 ` Greg KH
2008-03-06 1:55 ` [PATCH 0/9] Devices accessibility control group (v4) Greg KH
2008-03-06 3:15 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-03-06 4:34 ` Greg KH
2008-03-06 8:36 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-07 4:58 ` Greg KH
2008-03-07 8:42 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2008-03-07 8:54 ` Pavel Emelyanov
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