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From: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
To: Max Krasnyanskiy <maxk@qualcomm.com>
Cc: menage@google.com, mingo@elte.hu, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: boot cgroup questions
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:37:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080312153712.bc5df7a1.pj@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47D83858.4030806@qualcomm.com>

> This is what I meant by "deeper hierarchies" in the earlier emails.

These deeper hierarchies create an incompatibility in some common uses
of cpusets.

When my example had cpusets A, B and C, that was as stated, not as
might be modified to X, X/A, X/B and C.

If the user has or would have setup cpusets A, B and C because that's
what they needed to manage the CPU and Memory Node placement of their
tasks, then that's what they might have setup, and there is a good
chance that they would find the imposition of the extra 'X' cpuset to
be a problem, to require more code and to be a cause of bugs.

Adding irqs to the cpuset hierarchy isn't free; it can further overload
the hierarchy, with "deeper hierarchies" as you state.

If instead of deeper hierarchies, we allow the same irq to be listed in
more than one cpuset (unlike tasks, which only get one cpuset) then we
need some way, independent of the cpuset hierarchy, to determine how to
resolve conflicts.  We can't just add all the cpus together, allowing an
irq to be directed to any CPU which is listed in any cpuset that
accepts that irq, because a major use for this is to remove irqs from
certain realtime CPUs.

So ... if the natural hierarchy needed to map irqs to CPUs is not a
subset of the natural hierarchy needed to map tasks to sets of CPUs and
Nodes, then we either deepen the hierarchy (cross product of the the
two maps, essentially) or we allow the same irq to be listed in
multiple cpusets and provide some alternative mechanism, outside the
hierarchy, to resolve the resulting conflicts in the irq to CPU map.

-- 
                  I won't rest till it's the best ...
                  Programmer, Linux Scalability
                  Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com> 1.940.382.4214

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-12 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-12  1:23 boot cgroup questions Max Krasnyansky
2008-03-12  1:27 ` Paul Menage
2008-03-12  2:34   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-03-12  2:36     ` Paul Menage
2008-03-12  2:53       ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-03-12  3:09         ` Paul Menage
2008-03-12  3:39           ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-03-12  4:59           ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-12 18:24             ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-03-12 18:57               ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-12 19:11                 ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-03-12 19:32                   ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-12 20:08                     ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-03-12 20:37                       ` Paul Jackson [this message]
2008-03-12 22:29                         ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-03-12 23:30                           ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-13  0:57                             ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-03-13  7:03                               ` Paul Jackson
2008-04-10 18:03                                 ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-04-14 18:39                                   ` Paul Jackson
2008-05-09 10:45                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-09 11:17                                       ` IRQ affinities (was: boot cgroup questions) Paul Jackson
2008-05-09 11:48                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-09 12:03                                           ` Paul Jackson
2008-05-09 12:14                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-09 12:36                                               ` Paul Jackson
2008-05-09 17:43                                                 ` Paul Jackson
2008-05-21  1:21                                                 ` IRQ affinities Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-05-21  1:14                                         ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-05-21  4:45                                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-21 16:18                                             ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-05-21  6:34                                           ` Paul Jackson
2008-05-21 17:58                                             ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-04-14 18:42                                   ` boot cgroup questions Paul Jackson
2008-03-13  7:12                               ` Paul Jackson
2008-04-10 17:24                                 ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-04-10 17:37                                   ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-12 23:32                           ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-13  0:46                             ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-03-12 19:16             ` Paul Menage
2008-03-12 19:24               ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-12 19:30                 ` Max Krasnyanskiy

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