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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: David Newall <davidn@davidnewall.com>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, "Fred ." <eldmannen@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Keys get stuck
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:14:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080313171425.GA4840@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47D7B428.6010804@davidnewall.com>

On Wed 2008-03-12 21:14:56, David Newall wrote:
> Jiri Kosina wrote:
> > Very probably this is due to broken way how X themselves implement 
> > auto-repeat, instead of using kernel-provided auto-repeat functionality.
> 
> It should be said that X implements auto-repeat out of necessity.  While
> the kernel can report key down and up events, its further interpretation
> of those events is not appropriate.  Many combinations of events are
> possible, such as keyboard plus mouse, and this precludes the kernel
> from providing a full interpretation.  It would be wrong for it to even
> try.  X is the proper place to implement auto-repeat for X.

No.

hw is proper place to implement autorepeat, and along with some
buffering, it has chance to work. Kernel is not real-time, and X are
definitely not real-time, while autorepeat is real-time operation.

It actually mostly works in ps/2 case. Buffer in hardware means that
pretty big interrupt delays can be tolerated without problems.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-13 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-11 23:32 Keys get stuck Fred .
2008-03-12  0:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-12  8:48 ` Sebastien Dugue
2008-03-12 10:32 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-03-12 10:44   ` David Newall
2008-03-12 14:47     ` Theodore Tso
2008-03-12 15:20       ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-03-12 16:47       ` David Newall
2008-03-12 16:49         ` Jiri Kosina
2008-03-12 21:22           ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2008-03-13  5:42             ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-13  9:48               ` Jan Knutar
2008-03-13 11:28                 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-13 11:31                   ` Jiri Kosina
2008-03-13 12:02                     ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-13 12:02                   ` Carlos R. Mafra
2008-03-13 12:06                     ` Jiri Kosina
2008-03-13 12:19                       ` Carlos R. Mafra
2008-03-13 12:21                     ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-13 14:18                     ` Helge Hafting
2008-03-13 15:13                       ` Swap makes X unfair (was Re: Keys get stuck) Carlos R. Mafra
2008-03-14 11:02                         ` Helge Hafting
2008-03-15 22:11                           ` Carlos R. Mafra
2008-03-16 15:27                           ` Jan Knutar
2008-03-14 18:34                       ` Keys get stuck Pavel Machek
2008-03-13 17:14     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2008-03-13 17:56       ` Fred .
2008-03-13 18:03         ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-14  9:21       ` Jiri Kosina
2008-03-14 18:24         ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-14 21:34           ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-03-14 13:30       ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-03-14 19:35         ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-13 13:01 ` Mark Lord
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2008-03-14 20:20         ` Bodo Eggert

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