From: Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Cc: bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com, libc-alpha@sourceware.org,
Erez Zadok <ezk@cs.sunysb.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Mingming Cao <cmm@us.ibm.com>, Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Union mount readdir support in glibc
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:07:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080314150638.GA27730@T61> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47D9F6CC.6010009@redhat.com>
On Thu, Mar 13, Ulrich Drepper wrote:
> There is very little overhead. Since we copy using getdents multiple
> records it is more efficient than implementing readdir in the kernel.
> This is how efficient normal directory operations must remain. The only
> slight inefficiency is that we have to copy the entries after getdents()
> because the d_type field is not in the place we expect it at userlevel.
> For this a new interface could help.
BTW, Since some filesystem always give DT_UNKNOWN an additional stat is
necessary to implement whiteout filtering. I don't want to do that in
kernel-space if possible ...
> Regarding questions you have: if a directory currently is read and file
> are added or removed, all bets are off.
>
> re seeking: you have to support seeking. There is no way around it.
> Once again, if any file has been added/removed, all bets are off. So,
> why not provide a cookie similar to what is done today? I think it is
> not acceptable to require caching the entire directory content at
> userlevel. It's bad enough if we have to store the file names for
> duplicate elimination.
Which basically means tracking of the "space" between dirents and maintaining
the relative order of entries. Which is a pain. I already tried to solve this
problem for tmpfs before and it needs a hugh amount of kernel memory for open
directories. In the end I only know of one situation where it is used: very old
glibc when running 32bit applications on 64bit kernel.
Cheers,
Jan
prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-14 15:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-11 5:55 [RFC] Union mount readdir support in glibc Bharata B Rao
2008-03-11 8:09 ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-11 12:49 ` Bharata B Rao
2008-03-12 4:28 ` Bharata B Rao
2008-03-14 3:53 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-03-14 5:39 ` Al Viro
2008-03-14 7:13 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-03-14 8:41 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-03-14 17:53 ` Peter Staubach
2008-03-14 20:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-03-14 20:58 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-03-14 15:07 ` Jan Blunck [this message]
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