From: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
To: "Éric Piel" <Eric.Piel@tremplin-utc.net>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>,
Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>,
Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Markus Gaugusch <dsdt@gaugusch.at>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [2.6.25-rc5-mm1] BUG: spinlock bad magic early during boot
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:27:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200803171327.16695.lenb@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47DC66A8.1020905@tremplin-utc.net>
I agree with Linus' decision to revert/disable this feature.
I think it is appropriate to muck with this in -mm, but not in -rc6
Kudos to Christoph, who recommended we revert it back at -rc2.
> > What's the problem with just loading a new DSDT later? Potentially as in
> > *much* later: including when user-space is all up-and-running?
I don't think re-loading the DSDT at run-time would be practical.
First, booting with the OEM DSDT may nullify the benefit
of overriding the OEM DSDT -- the damage may have already been done.
Secondly, unwinding everything that depends on the DSDT is on the
order of kexec or suspend/resume. We're talking about all the stuff
that PNP does at boot time, plus device discovery and driver binding.
The feature on the table here is an initrd DSDT override.
We already have the ability to statically compile a DSDT
override into the kernel image. That capability is sufficient
for kernel developers.
The initrd version of the DSDT override is really for one scenario.
Somebody who has a BIOS that even Windows can't deal with -- so
no amount of "Windows bug compatbility" will help Linux with it.
They must be capable eough to generate or acquire a modified DSDT.
They must be unwilling/unable to re-build their kenrel from scratch
each time they update it. Eg. following debian unstable updates etc.
I think that customer deserves support, particularly because they get
bragging rights that Linux works better on a box build for Windows
than Windows does:-)
However, I don't think there are enough customers like this to
justify a huge effort that would add risk to Linux.
-Len
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-17 17:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-11 8:14 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Andrew Morton
2008-03-11 10:16 ` [Build Faliure] 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 build fails Kamalesh Babulal
2008-03-11 10:56 ` Edward Shishkin
2008-03-11 12:55 ` [Build Failure] 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Build fails with allmodconfig probe_4drives undefined Kamalesh Babulal
2008-03-11 17:41 ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-11 19:35 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-11 18:19 ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-11 19:36 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-11 17:09 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 (paravirt/vsmp/no PCI) Randy Dunlap
2008-03-11 18:18 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-12 0:10 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2008-03-12 1:42 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-03-12 1:51 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-12 7:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-11 20:23 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 serge
2008-03-11 20:39 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Andrew Morton
2008-03-12 19:33 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Torsten Kaiser
2008-03-12 19:44 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Andrew Morton
2008-03-12 20:01 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Torsten Kaiser
2008-03-13 22:05 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Torsten Kaiser
2008-03-13 22:35 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Andrew Morton
2008-03-13 23:10 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Badari Pulavarty
2008-03-21 12:12 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Ingo Molnar
2008-03-12 1:14 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Dave Young
2008-03-12 7:21 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1: NO_HZ=Y && PREEMPT_RCU=Y fails to build Laurent Riffard
2008-03-12 7:44 ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-12 21:32 ` Laurent Riffard
2008-03-12 23:43 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-12 9:17 ` [BUILD_FAILURE] 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 build fails at startup_ipi_hook() with randconfig Kamalesh Babulal
2008-03-12 12:55 ` [BUG] 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 kernel panic with "Exception: 501 " on powerpc Kamalesh Babulal
2008-03-12 17:46 ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-12 17:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-03-12 22:26 ` Michael Ellerman
2008-03-12 22:33 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-03-13 13:02 ` Kamalesh Babulal
2008-03-12 20:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-12 18:14 ` Badari Pulavarty
2008-03-12 18:10 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 - x86_64 boot problem ? Badari Pulavarty
2008-03-12 18:15 ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-13 17:09 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 - x86_64 boot problem with git-sched.patch Badari Pulavarty
2008-03-13 17:40 ` Badari Pulavarty
2008-03-13 17:55 ` Guillaume Chazarain
2008-03-13 18:20 ` Badari Pulavarty
2008-03-12 23:54 ` [2.6.25-rc5-mm1] BUG: spinlock bad magic early during boot Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-13 0:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-13 21:48 ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-13 20:46 ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-14 0:35 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-14 18:03 ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-14 20:06 ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-14 20:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-14 20:51 ` Eric Piel
2008-03-14 21:35 ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-14 22:50 ` Eric Piel
2008-03-14 23:29 ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-15 12:47 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-15 19:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-15 19:42 ` Éric Piel
2008-03-15 20:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-16 0:15 ` Éric Piel
2008-03-17 17:27 ` Len Brown [this message]
[not found] ` <1205858252.21619.233.camel@queen.suse.de>
2008-03-18 20:32 ` Len Brown
2008-03-20 14:28 ` Thomas Renninger
2008-03-17 17:59 ` Len Brown
2008-03-21 13:17 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-23 16:00 ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-24 16:03 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-24 17:05 ` Eric Piel
2008-03-24 17:19 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-24 17:23 ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-27 9:23 ` Helge Hafting
2008-03-17 18:05 ` Len Brown
2008-03-16 20:11 ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-17 12:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-19 23:50 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-17 17:48 ` Len Brown
2008-03-13 0:15 ` [2.6.25-rc5-mm1] WARNING: at drivers/base/sys.c:173 Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-13 18:34 ` Greg KH
2008-03-13 19:57 ` Dave Jones
2008-03-13 19:56 ` Dave Jones
2008-03-13 20:27 ` Greg KH
2008-03-14 0:01 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-14 0:44 ` Dave Jones
2008-03-14 0:57 ` Zhao Yakui
2008-03-14 9:58 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-15 12:16 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-13 14:03 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 shutdown crash Helge Hafting
2008-03-13 16:12 ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-25 12:23 ` Helge Hafting
2008-03-13 19:48 ` [2.6.25-rc5-mm1] regression: cannot run Postfix sendmail command as non-root Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-13 22:21 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-03-14 0:08 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-17 10:44 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-03-17 12:50 ` Benjamin Thery
2008-03-17 13:35 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-17 13:06 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-17 13:17 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-03-19 17:52 ` Benjamin Thery
2008-03-19 21:16 ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-19 22:14 ` Benjamin Thery
2008-03-19 22:49 ` David Miller
2008-03-20 8:26 ` Benjamin Thery
2008-03-20 10:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 12:52 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-20 13:48 ` Benjamin Thery
2008-03-20 14:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-19 23:31 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-13 22:07 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1: "consolechars" hangs on boot Laurent Riffard
2008-03-13 22:38 ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-14 5:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-03-14 21:06 ` Laurent Riffard
2008-03-15 12:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-03-16 21:38 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 build failure of pcsp.c Mariusz Kozlowski
2008-03-28 22:52 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 sparc64 boot problems due to generic pci_enable_resources() Mariusz Kozlowski
2008-03-28 23:10 ` David Miller
2008-03-29 0:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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