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From: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
To: trenn@suse.de
Cc: "Éric Piel" <Eric.Piel@tremplin-utc.net>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Tilman Schmidt" <tilman@imap.cc>,
	"Dave Hansen" <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Markus Gaugusch" <dsdt@gaugusch.at>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, "Al Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [2.6.25-rc5-mm1] BUG: spinlock bad magic early during boot
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:32:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200803181632.44288.lenb@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1205858252.21619.233.camel@queen.suse.de>


> > The initrd version of the DSDT override is really for one scenario.
> > Somebody who has a BIOS that even Windows can't deal with -- so
> > no amount of "Windows bug compatbility" will help Linux with it.

> No, this is for people getting involved in ACPI.
> Everybody thinks ACPI is that complicated..., but it's not.
> It's amazing how far people can debug ACPI bugs (yes, even people who
> "do not even know" how to compile a kernel) by simply analyzing the ASL
> BIOS code.

Thomas,
The justification above is what convinced me
that we should try to integrate this feature.
Further, although we failed in 2.6.25,
I think we should continue to try to get this capability integrated.

If you think it will be useful for additional purposes, that's great.
As you know, I'm somewhat skeptical, as I've seen huge mistakes such
as a database of modified BIOS images created and used when the users
have absolutely no idea what they're doing.  But we don't have to
agree on this to move forward.

thanks,
-Len

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-20  2:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-11  8:14 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Andrew Morton
2008-03-11 10:16 ` [Build Faliure] 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 build fails Kamalesh Babulal
2008-03-11 10:56   ` Edward Shishkin
2008-03-11 12:55 ` [Build Failure] 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Build fails with allmodconfig probe_4drives undefined Kamalesh Babulal
2008-03-11 17:41   ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-11 19:35     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-11 18:19   ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-11 19:36     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-11 17:09 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 (paravirt/vsmp/no PCI) Randy Dunlap
2008-03-11 18:18   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-12  0:10     ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2008-03-12  1:42       ` Randy Dunlap
2008-03-12  1:51       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-12  7:14       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-11 20:23 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 serge
2008-03-11 20:39   ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Andrew Morton
2008-03-12 19:33     ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Torsten Kaiser
2008-03-12 19:44       ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Andrew Morton
2008-03-12 20:01         ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Torsten Kaiser
2008-03-13 22:05           ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Torsten Kaiser
2008-03-13 22:35             ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Andrew Morton
2008-03-13 23:10               ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Badari Pulavarty
2008-03-21 12:12                 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Ingo Molnar
2008-03-12  1:14 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 Dave Young
2008-03-12  7:21 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1: NO_HZ=Y && PREEMPT_RCU=Y fails to build Laurent Riffard
2008-03-12  7:44   ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-12 21:32     ` Laurent Riffard
2008-03-12 23:43   ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-12  9:17 ` [BUILD_FAILURE] 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 build fails at startup_ipi_hook() with randconfig Kamalesh Babulal
2008-03-12 12:55 ` [BUG] 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 kernel panic with "Exception: 501 " on powerpc Kamalesh Babulal
2008-03-12 17:46   ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-12 17:51     ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-03-12 22:26       ` Michael Ellerman
2008-03-12 22:33         ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-03-13 13:02           ` Kamalesh Babulal
2008-03-12 20:40     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-12 18:14   ` Badari Pulavarty
2008-03-12 18:10 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 - x86_64 boot problem ? Badari Pulavarty
2008-03-12 18:15   ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-13 17:09     ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 - x86_64 boot problem with git-sched.patch Badari Pulavarty
2008-03-13 17:40       ` Badari Pulavarty
2008-03-13 17:55         ` Guillaume Chazarain
2008-03-13 18:20           ` Badari Pulavarty
2008-03-12 23:54 ` [2.6.25-rc5-mm1] BUG: spinlock bad magic early during boot Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-13  0:04   ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-13 21:48     ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-13 20:46   ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-14  0:35     ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-14 18:03       ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-14 20:06         ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-14 20:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-14 20:51           ` Eric Piel
2008-03-14 21:35             ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-14 22:50               ` Eric Piel
2008-03-14 23:29                 ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-15 12:47                   ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-15 19:21                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-15 19:42                       ` Éric Piel
2008-03-15 20:19                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-16  0:15                           ` Éric Piel
2008-03-17 17:27                             ` Len Brown
     [not found]                               ` <1205858252.21619.233.camel@queen.suse.de>
2008-03-18 20:32                                 ` Len Brown [this message]
2008-03-20 14:28                                   ` Thomas Renninger
2008-03-17 17:59                           ` Len Brown
2008-03-21 13:17                           ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-23 16:00                             ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-24 16:03                               ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-24 17:05                                 ` Eric Piel
2008-03-24 17:19                                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-24 17:23                                   ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-27  9:23                               ` Helge Hafting
2008-03-17 18:05                         ` Len Brown
2008-03-16 20:11                     ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-17 12:23                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-19 23:50                         ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-17 17:48                 ` Len Brown
2008-03-13  0:15 ` [2.6.25-rc5-mm1] WARNING: at drivers/base/sys.c:173 Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-13 18:34   ` Greg KH
2008-03-13 19:57     ` Dave Jones
2008-03-13 19:56   ` Dave Jones
2008-03-13 20:27     ` Greg KH
2008-03-14  0:01     ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-14  0:44       ` Dave Jones
2008-03-14  0:57       ` Zhao Yakui
2008-03-14  9:58         ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-15 12:16         ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-13 14:03 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 shutdown crash Helge Hafting
2008-03-13 16:12   ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-25 12:23     ` Helge Hafting
2008-03-13 19:48 ` [2.6.25-rc5-mm1] regression: cannot run Postfix sendmail command as non-root Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-13 22:21   ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-03-14  0:08     ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-17 10:44       ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-03-17 12:50         ` Benjamin Thery
2008-03-17 13:35           ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-17 13:06         ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-17 13:17           ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-03-19 17:52   ` Benjamin Thery
2008-03-19 21:16     ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-19 22:14       ` Benjamin Thery
2008-03-19 22:49       ` David Miller
2008-03-20  8:26         ` Benjamin Thery
2008-03-20 10:21           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 12:52             ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-20 13:48               ` Benjamin Thery
2008-03-20 14:38                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-19 23:31       ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-13 22:07 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1: "consolechars" hangs on boot Laurent Riffard
2008-03-13 22:38   ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-14  5:26     ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-03-14 21:06       ` Laurent Riffard
2008-03-15 12:03         ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-03-16 21:38 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 build failure of pcsp.c Mariusz Kozlowski
2008-03-28 22:52 ` 2.6.25-rc5-mm1 sparc64 boot problems due to generic pci_enable_resources() Mariusz Kozlowski
2008-03-28 23:10   ` David Miller
2008-03-29  0:44     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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