From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
jkosina@suse.cz, gregkh@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, pavel@suse.cz,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, rtc-linux@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh.
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:20:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080328102010.GA633@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803280249.42193.david-b@pacbell.net>
* David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Prevent the most significant RTC configuration problems:
>
> - If the new RTC framework is enabled, don't allow any of the
> legacy drivers to be configured.
yay!!!!
> - When using generic RTC on x86, enable rtc-cmos by default.
Amen.
> It seems too many people are used to enabling a legacy RTC despite the
> Kconfig help/comments; the gentle approach hasn't worked.
Very-Much-Acked-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
it's not just about being gentle: it's that there are thousands of
.config options that are confusing to most users, so our defaults and
rules must make sense. If we think that an approach is superior (which
your new RTC code certainly is), we have to take up the responsibility
of pushing that as a prominent, default choice and excluding the old
code. That ends up benefiting everyone, reduces complexity of the
kernel. You wont see anyone shed tears for the old code.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-28 10:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-27 15:29 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh Mark Lord
2008-03-27 16:07 ` Greg KH
2008-03-28 0:32 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-03-28 1:57 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-28 3:12 ` David Miller
2008-03-28 4:42 ` Bob Tracy
2008-03-28 4:56 ` David Miller
2008-03-28 5:17 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-28 6:01 ` david
2008-03-28 16:34 ` Bob Tracy
2008-04-05 18:23 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-03-28 5:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-28 5:46 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-28 5:52 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-28 6:05 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-28 6:58 ` David Brownell
2008-03-28 9:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-28 9:49 ` David Brownell
2008-03-28 10:20 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-03-28 11:01 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-28 15:03 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-03-28 20:14 ` David Brownell
2008-03-28 12:51 ` Kconfig RTC selection (was: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh.) Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-28 13:49 ` Kconfig RTC selection Mark Lord
2008-03-28 19:22 ` Kconfig RTC selection (was: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh.) David Brownell
2008-03-29 12:55 ` Kconfig RTC selection Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-28 13:47 ` 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh Mark Lord
2008-03-28 20:04 ` Kconfig RTC selection (was: 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh.) David Brownell
2008-03-28 21:06 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-03-28 21:23 ` David Brownell
2008-03-28 21:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-03-28 21:45 ` David Brownell
2008-03-28 21:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-03-28 22:18 ` David Brownell
2008-03-28 22:36 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-03-29 11:40 ` [rtc-linux] " Alessandro Zummo
2008-03-28 14:56 ` 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh Jan Engelhardt
2008-03-28 17:47 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-03-29 3:58 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-28 1:51 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-28 2:11 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-28 2:13 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-28 14:34 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-28 14:57 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-27 22:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-28 5:22 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-28 2:14 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-28 9:24 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-30 21:04 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-30 21:09 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-31 11:55 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-03-31 14:39 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-31 15:04 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-03-31 15:04 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-31 15:14 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-31 16:37 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-03-31 17:03 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-31 17:06 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-31 17:15 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-31 17:21 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-31 17:30 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-31 18:05 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-03-31 19:21 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-02 8:04 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-04-02 14:38 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-02 14:38 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-02 15:05 ` 2.6.25-rc7/rc8 USB dead on resume Mark Lord
2008-04-02 15:21 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-04-02 15:08 ` 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh Alan Stern
2008-04-02 15:44 ` 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh. ---> PATCH Mark Lord
2008-04-02 15:47 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-02 15:49 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-02 20:09 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-02 16:04 ` 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh David Brownell
2008-04-02 16:09 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-02 20:22 ` David Brownell
2008-04-02 16:20 ` [PATCH] usb ehci_iaa_watchdog fix Mark Lord
2008-04-02 16:48 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-02 17:34 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-02 18:08 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-02 19:20 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-02 20:42 ` David Brownell
2008-04-02 21:08 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-07 23:37 ` David Brownell
2008-04-08 2:13 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-02 20:31 ` David Brownell
2008-04-02 20:55 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-02 23:07 ` David Brownell
2008-04-02 16:56 ` David Brownell
2008-04-01 9:59 ` 2.6.25-rc7: Ugh Pavel Machek
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