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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Pawel Staszewski <pstaszewski@artcom.pl>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Natalie Protasevich <protasnb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 2.6.25-rc7-git2: Reported regressions from 2.6.24
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:34:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080331133429.GG14636@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803282328.34172.rjw@sisk.pl>


* Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:

> > This is why I have always been advocating so aggressive culling of 
> > regressions and bug-reports - stale bug-reports are worse than 
> > useless, they actually _hurt_.
> 
> I don't quite agree here.  At least, they indicate that we may have an 
> unfixed problem and the fact that no one has taken care of it doesn't 
> really mean we should generally ignore it.

culling doesnt mean ignoring - it just means de-prioritizing. There's 
four basic bug categories:

1- bugs where there's inactivity on the reporter side. This we should
   de-prioritize - and reactivate them once their activity changes.

2- bugs where there's inactivity on the _maintainer_ side show bad bugs 
   in our process.

3- bugs that are old but have lots of activity are usually the most 
   difficult bugs where both side try their best to get it resolved.

4- bugs that are relatively new can be in any of the above 3 categories, 
   we dont know yet.

so i think we should list bugs in category #3 first: the hardest bugs, 
which need the most eyes. Then should we list #2 - the embarrasing bugs 
where our pocess failed. Then should we list #4 - new, not yet resolved 
bugs which need more eyes - especially in late -rc's. Then comes #1 - 
inactive bugs.

the problem for your scripting is to efficiently parse lkml activity for 
these bugs: which replies are from the "maintainer", and how "active" is 
a thread. So i guess a good heuristic is what you did in your latest 
mail: to reverse sort by age of the bug - but i'd also suggest to list 
too old entries where the bugzilla is not in NEEDINFO state - those 
indicate inactive (or unaware) maintainers.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-31 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-27 22:53 2.6.25-rc7-git2: Reported regressions from 2.6.24 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-28  0:18 ` Carlos R. Mafra
2008-03-28  0:23   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-28  2:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-28  3:24   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-28  4:00     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-28 10:48       ` Paweł Staszewski
2008-03-28 17:46         ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-28 21:57           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-28 17:15       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-28 17:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-28 18:08           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-28 18:20             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-28 18:38               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-28 18:47               ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-28 18:53                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-28 19:37                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-28 19:59                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-28 19:59               ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-28 20:24                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-28 18:37           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-28 19:32             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-28 18:33       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-28 19:25         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-29 20:42           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-29 21:29             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-29 23:52               ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-31 18:56                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-31 18:45               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-28  3:31   ` Yinghai Lu
2008-03-31 10:14     ` Kamalesh Babulal
2008-03-31 12:10       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-28 11:29   ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2008-03-28 16:11     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-28 16:10   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-28 16:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-28 17:36       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-03-28 20:33         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-28 22:28       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-31 13:34         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-03-28 10:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-03-28 10:58   ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-03-28 11:00     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-28 11:13       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-03-28 11:16         ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-03-28 11:31           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-03-28 16:17             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-28 17:06               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-03-28 20:42               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-28 22:33                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-28 11:44         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-28 16:12   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-28 16:18     ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-03-28 18:57 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-28 22:37   ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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