From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
"Kok, Auke" <auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
NetDev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
e1000-list <e1000-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
linux-pci maillist <linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jesse Brandeburg <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
"Ronciak, John" <john.ronciak@intel.com>,
"Allan, Bruce W" <bruce.w.allan@intel.com>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: [patch] e1000=y && e1000e=m regression fix
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 22:04:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080409200433.GA18968@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47FD1DF6.2000007@garzik.org>
* Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org> wrote:
> Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> * Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org> wrote:
>>
>>>> We've got three thousand Kconfig options - it is clearly not realistic
>>>> for users to keep such details in mind to avoid pitfalls.
>>> Agreed -- hence the multiple announcements, including in this thread, to
>>> put said details into mind.
>>
>> which part of "it took a kernel developer more than an hour to figure
>> out why his laptop had a dead network interface" did you not
>> understand? Whatever you did, it was not apparent to me. I dont
>> follow every tiny detail of the e1000 driver family, nor do 99%+ [*]
>> of our users.
>
> You do follow LKML, where multiple announcements have and are being
> posted.
... what you say is contrary to the well-known regression rules of the
upstream kernel. You cannot seriously expect users to follow mailings
related to the 8+ million lines of code kernel they are utilizing, just
to not end up with a dead networking interface ....
so please comment on the fix i sent. The patch solves the problem i had
and it's end of this story as far as i'm concerned. Do you have any
strong technical argument why it should not be applied?
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-09 20:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-04 21:11 [ANNOUNCE] e1000 to e1000e migration of PCI Express devices Kok, Auke
2008-04-04 21:31 ` Dave Hansen
2008-04-04 21:49 ` [E1000-devel] " Kok, Auke
2008-04-04 21:52 ` Jeff Garzik
[not found] ` <20080408083606.GA20863@elte.hu>
2008-04-08 14:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-08 15:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-08 14:56 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <47FB9ABB.9080403@intel.com>
2008-04-08 18:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 18:39 ` [regression] e1000e broke e1000 (was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] e1000 to e1000e migration of PCI Express devices) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 19:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-08 19:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 19:56 ` [regression] e1000e broke e1000 Jeff Garzik
2008-04-08 20:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 20:19 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-08 20:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 20:47 ` [E1000-devel] " Kok, Auke
2008-04-08 20:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-09 19:38 ` [patch] e1000=y && e1000e=m regression fix (was: Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-09 19:50 ` [patch] e1000=y && e1000e=m regression fix Jeff Garzik
2008-04-09 20:04 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-04-09 20:12 ` Kok, Auke
2008-04-09 20:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-10 18:29 ` Kok, Auke
2008-04-10 19:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-10 21:23 ` Kok, Auke
2008-04-10 21:44 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-04-10 21:52 ` Kok, Auke
2008-04-11 7:54 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-11 0:46 ` Philip Craig
2008-04-11 11:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-11 11:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-11 12:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-11 16:22 ` Kok, Auke
2008-04-11 16:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-11 17:26 ` Kok, Auke
2008-04-11 17:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-11 17:53 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-11 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-11 19:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-11 19:25 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-11 19:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-11 20:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-11 20:22 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-11 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-11 21:01 ` Dan Noe
2008-04-11 22:06 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-04-11 22:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-11 23:05 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-04-11 23:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-11 23:15 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-04-11 23:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-11 23:58 ` david
2008-04-12 13:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-13 21:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-13 21:34 ` Ondrej Zary
2008-06-09 19:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-11 17:10 ` Martin Mares
2008-04-09 20:49 ` [patch] e1000=y && e1000e=m regression fix (was: Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000) Frans Pop
2008-04-09 23:59 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-10 1:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-10 9:57 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-10 14:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-10 17:55 ` Grant Grundler
2008-04-10 18:04 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-10 18:26 ` [patch] e1000=y && e1000e=m regression fix Kok, Auke
2008-04-10 21:20 ` Chris Friesen
2008-04-10 19:27 ` [patch] e1000=y && e1000e=m regression fix (was: Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000) Linus Torvalds
2008-04-10 21:35 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-08 20:31 ` [regression] e1000e broke e1000 Kok, Auke
2008-04-09 19:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-09 19:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-11 11:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-11 15:40 ` Chris Friesen
2008-04-11 19:29 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-10 0:52 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-04-11 8:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 19:43 ` [regression] e1000e broke e1000 (was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] e1000 toe1000e migration of PCI Express devices) Brandeburg, Jesse
2008-04-08 19:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 20:04 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-08 20:12 ` [regression] e1000e broke e1000 Dan Noe
2008-04-08 20:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-08 20:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 20:36 ` Martin Mares
2008-04-08 20:39 ` Dan Noe
2008-04-08 20:13 ` showing which hardware is unclaimed Rick Jones
2008-04-08 20:35 ` Martin Mares
2008-04-08 20:17 ` [regression] e1000e broke e1000 (was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] e1000 toe1000e migration of PCI Express devices) Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20080409190836.GA9276@elte.hu>
2008-04-09 19:38 ` [ANNOUNCE] e1000 to e1000e migration of PCI Express devices Andi Kleen
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