From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761151AbYDKQkW (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:40:22 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1760171AbYDKQkL (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:40:11 -0400 Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk ([195.92.253.2]:52722 "EHLO ZenIV.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759763AbYDKQkK (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:40:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:40:09 +0100 From: Al Viro To: Fred Trotter Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Introducing Fredux: a redundant project Message-ID: <20080411164009.GL9785@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:38:36AM -0500, Fred Trotter wrote: > http://www.fredtrotter.com/2007/11/27/foss-sin-pointless-duplication-of-effort/ Far more interesting question: who _cares_? The notion of "legitimacy" in that context is, AFAICS, based on unfounded assumption that there somebody owes you something - be it their time, their "loyalty", etc. Developers' minds are not resources you might have a claim upon. If you make a sufficient nuisance of yourself by playing marketing games, you will certainly be flamed, but not because of some mystical drain on resources. Landing pointless drivel in mailboxes is quite sufficient on its own... As as aside, ESR's understanding of the mechanisms making developers' community work had been repeatedly proven to be... inadequate. FWIW, he seems to be trying to shoehorn everything into an ideology and results are laughable.