From: Ivo van Doorn <ivdoorn@gmail.com>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Inaky Perez-Gonzalez" <inaky@linux.intel.com>,
"Iñaky Pérez-González" <inaky.perez-gonzalez@intel.com>,
"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/8] rfkill: add the WWAN radio type
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:28:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200804121428.57071.IvDoorn@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080412121554.GB3402@khazad-dum.debian.net>
On Saturday 12 April 2008, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008, Ivo van Doorn wrote:
> > On Friday 11 April 2008, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > > Unfortunately, instead of adding a generic Wireless WAN type, a technology-
> > > specific type (WiMAX) was added. That's useless for other WWAN devices,
> > > such as EDGE, UMTS, X-RTT and other such radios.
> >
> > Then perhaps we should replace WiMAX with the WWAN type?
>
> And have KEY_WIMAX interact with WWAN, or rename KEY_WIMAX to KEY_WWAN as
> well?
>
> I do think it should be OK to do both renames, since it is very unlikely
> that a device would have keys for WIMAX and WWAN at the same type. We
> don't even have to rename KEY_WIMAX, we can have KEY_WWAN and KEY_WIMAX map
> both to the same keycode.
>
> Inaky?
I would say rename, having multiple key definitions mapped to the same keycode
sounds like a bad idea to me.
> > > Add a WWAN rfkill type for generic wireless WAN devices. No keys are added
> > > as most devices use KEY_RADIO for WWAN control and need no specific keycode
> > > added.
> >
> > In the discussion around the WiMAX addition I do remember people wanted
> > it to have a seperate key code because it was "different technology". Wouldn't that
> > be the same for all WWAN technologies?
>
> IMO, this is an USER INTERFACE part of the kernel. The user will either
> interact with radios one-by-one (and the rfkill class provides this anyway,
> even without separate types), or he will want to deal with abstract
> concepts: "all radios", "wireless wan", "wireles lan", "personal-space
> radios (UWB, BT)"...
>
> I.e. I am not even sure we should have UWB and BT as separate types... but
> naming UWB "Bluetooth" would be wrong, too, so a proper fix there is harder
> (breaks stable ABI with userspace).
>
> > Aka, should the WiMAX keycode be changed to a WWAN keycode in input.h
> > and then be used for all WWAN rfkill switches?
>
> I'd think so.
>
> We can add a desc field to rfkill with a more human-friendly, not required
> to be unique, description of the switch.
>
> e.g.: "Intel WiMAX 1234 radio switch"
> "ThinkPad builtin bluetooth switch"
>
> and so on. It will be far more useful than making the switch type a
> technology-granular thing. And it will be useful for GUIs in userspace.
Sounds good.
Ivo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-12 12:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-11 20:37 [GIT PATCH] rfkill support for r/w and r/o rfkill switches Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-11 20:37 ` [PATCH 1/8] rfkill: clarify meaning of rfkill states Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-14 4:22 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2008-04-11 20:37 ` [PATCH 2/8] rfkill: fix minor typo in kernel doc Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-11 20:37 ` [PATCH 3/8] rfkill: handle KEY_RADIO and SW_RADIO events Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-12 10:36 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-04-12 12:05 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-12 12:23 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-04-12 13:08 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-12 13:17 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-04-12 15:47 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2008-04-12 18:02 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-12 18:14 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-04-12 19:09 ` Carlos Corbacho
2008-04-12 20:36 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-11 20:37 ` [PATCH 4/8] rfkill: add read-write rfkill switch support Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-12 10:36 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-04-14 1:20 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-14 12:00 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-04-14 14:16 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2008-04-14 14:36 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-14 15:19 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2008-04-14 16:33 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-14 18:05 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2008-04-14 21:41 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-14 19:06 ` Carlos Corbacho
2008-04-14 20:23 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2008-04-15 7:27 ` Carlos Corbacho
2008-04-15 12:58 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2008-04-14 21:04 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-04-14 21:46 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-15 8:14 ` Ivo Van Doorn
2008-04-11 20:37 ` [PATCH 5/8] rfkill: add read-only " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-11 20:37 ` [PATCH 6/8] rfkill: add the WWAN radio type Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-11 20:44 ` Inaky Perez-Gonzalez
2008-04-11 20:53 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-12 10:36 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-04-12 12:15 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-12 12:28 ` Ivo van Doorn [this message]
2008-04-12 23:23 ` Inaky Perez-Gonzalez
2008-04-13 17:25 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-13 17:37 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-04-13 18:16 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-14 4:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2008-04-11 20:37 ` [PATCH 7/8] rfkill: add an "any radio" switch type and functionality Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-12 19:57 ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-13 17:40 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-11 20:37 ` [PATCH 8/8] rfkill: add parameter to disable radios by default Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-12 10:36 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-04-12 12:56 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-12 13:43 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-04-12 14:43 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-12 16:24 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-04-12 18:36 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-12 19:15 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-04-12 10:36 ` [GIT PATCH] rfkill support for r/w and r/o rfkill switches Ivo van Doorn
2008-04-16 18:37 ` John W. Linville
2008-04-16 19:26 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-04-16 19:58 ` John W. Linville
2008-04-16 20:40 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-04-17 1:29 ` David Miller
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