From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758610AbYDNFk5 (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:40:57 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752994AbYDNFkn (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:40:43 -0400 Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk ([195.92.253.2]:57557 "EHLO ZenIV.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752929AbYDNFkm (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:40:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:39:43 +0100 From: Al Viro To: Willy Tarreau Cc: david@lang.hm, Stephen Clark , Evgeniy Polyakov , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Andrew Morton , Tilman Schmidt , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Mark Lord , David Miller , jesper.juhl@gmail.com, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, jeff@garzik.org, linux-kernel , git@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Reporting bugs and bisection Message-ID: <20080414053943.GU9785@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <47FEADCB.7070104@rtr.ca> <20080413121831.d89dd424.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080413202118.GA29658@2ka.mipt.ru> <200804132233.50491.rjw@sisk.pl> <20080413205406.GA9190@2ka.mipt.ru> <48028830.6020703@earthlink.net> <20080414043939.GA6862@1wt.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080414043939.GA6862@1wt.eu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 06:39:39AM +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote: [snip] > I'm sure many people would find this useless (or in fact reject the > idea because it would show that most code will be rated 1 or 2), > but I really think it can help subsystem maintainers make the relation > between a reported bug and a possible submitter. I have a related proposal: let us require all patches to be stamped with Discordian *and* Eternal September dates. In triplicate. While we are at it, why don't we introduce new mandatory headers like, say it, X-checkpatch: {Yes,No} X-checkpatch-why-not: X-pointless: X-arbitrary-rules-added-to-CodingStyle: (should be present if and only if X-pointless: 69 is present). Come to think of that, we clearly need a new file in Documentation/*, documenting such headers. Why don't we organize a subcommittee^Wnew maillist devoted to that? That would provide another entry route for contributors, lowering the overall entry barriers even further... Seriously, looks like Andi is right - we've got ourselves a developing beaurocracy. As in "more and more ways of generating activity without doing anything even remotely useful". Complete with tendency to operate in the ways that make sense only to beaurocracy in question and an ever-growing set of bylaws...