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From: "Hans J. Koch" <hjk@linutronix.de>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: "Uwe Kleine-König" <Uwe.Kleine-Koenig@digi.com>,
	"Hans J. Koch" <hjk@linutronix.de>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: [PATCH 4/4 v2] [RFC] UIO: generic platform driver
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:52:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080414115259.GB3199@local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080414113759.GG1540@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:37:59PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 01:20:21PM +0200, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > [1] http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/4/11/81 or
> > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/665257
> 
> In one of the mails, it was said:
>   No. It's more important to see which variables are declared in the
>   function and which are declared elsewhere. If you have to search the
>   whole body of a function for possible declarations, this is BAD. And if
>   it's not clear where a variable is used, the function is too long or has
>   other style problems. Your function is short and clean, so where's the
>   problem? Please move the declaration to the top of the function.
> 
> I disagree with this statement.  It's far better to limit the scope of
> variables so that you know they only have local use, and eg, not used
> inside a loop and then outside with possible unintended effects.
> 
> If a variable is only used inside a loop, it should be declared _inside_
> that loop.
> 
> The statement goes on to talk about the function being short and clean -
> that's not an argument to apply any particular point of view on this
> subject, since you can argue that because it's short and clean you can
> see that the variable is only used within the loop.
> 
> So, please, keep the variable declaration inside the loop, and don't
> pollute the outer levels with unnecessary variable declarations.

OK, I'm finally convinced :-)
I knew this style from C++ where it makes sense, because a (class-)
variable declaration can implicitly call the constructor of that class
which you normally want to avoid if not needed. As this doesn't happen
in C, I found it unnecessary.
I agree now that there's also a readability argument. The limitation of
the scope is probably not that important as compilers will optimize that
anyway in a lot of cases.

Thanks,
Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-14 11:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-10 12:36 [PATCH 0/4] UIO: fixes, cleanups and a new driver Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-10 12:37 ` [PATCH 1/4] UIO: hold a reference to the device's owner while the device is open Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-10 12:37   ` [PATCH 2/4] UIO: use menuconfig Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-10 12:37     ` [PATCH 3/4] UIO: wrap all uio drivers in "if UIO" and "endif" Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-10 12:37       ` [PATCH 4/4] [RFC] UIO: generic platform driver Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-10 19:54         ` Hans J. Koch
2008-04-10 20:08           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-10 21:17             ` Hans J. Koch
2008-04-11  1:34               ` Ben Nizette
2008-04-10 22:48         ` Hans J. Koch
2008-04-11  6:21           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-11  9:21             ` [PATCH 4/4 v2] " Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-11 10:33               ` Hans J. Koch
2008-04-11 11:03                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-11 11:17                   ` Hans J. Koch
2008-04-11 11:25                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-12 13:16                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2008-04-14  7:48                         ` [PATCH] " Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-14  9:37                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2008-04-14  9:54                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-14 10:00                               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-14 10:17                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2008-04-14 11:20                                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-14 11:37                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2008-04-14 11:52                                     ` Hans J. Koch [this message]
2008-04-11 10:48               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-11 21:41                 ` Greg KH
2008-04-11 22:54                   ` Hans J. Koch
2008-04-11 23:06                     ` Greg KH
2008-04-11  9:24             ` [PATCH 4/4] " Hans J. Koch
2008-04-11 10:41               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-11 19:59                 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-04-10 19:45       ` [PATCH 3/4] UIO: wrap all uio drivers in "if UIO" and "endif" Hans J. Koch
2008-04-11 21:36         ` Greg KH
2008-04-10 19:39     ` [PATCH 2/4] UIO: use menuconfig Hans J. Koch
2008-04-11 21:36       ` Greg KH
2008-04-11 22:58         ` Hans J. Koch
2008-04-10 20:11   ` [PATCH 1/4] UIO: hold a reference to the device's owner while the device is open Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-10 21:02   ` Hans J. Koch
2008-04-10 21:12     ` Greg KH
2008-04-10 21:23       ` Hans J. Koch
2008-04-11  6:50     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-11  8:44       ` Hans J. Koch
2008-04-11  9:07         ` [PATCH 1/4 v2] " Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-11 11:39           ` Hans J. Koch
2008-04-22  9:47 ` [PATCH 0/3] UIO: cleanup and platform driver Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-22  9:52   ` [PATCH 1/3] UIO: don't let UIO_CIF and UIO_SMX depend twice on UIO Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-22  9:52     ` [PATCH 2/3] provide a dummy implementation of the clk API Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-22  9:52       ` [PATCH 3/3] UIO: generic platform driver Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-22 10:26         ` Ben Nizette
2008-04-22 13:35           ` Hans J. Koch
2008-04-23  8:56         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-04-27 17:12           ` Hans J. Koch
2008-05-20  9:23             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-05-20  9:24               ` [PATCH] UIO: don't let UIO_CIF and UIO_SMX depend twice on UIO Uwe Kleine-König
2008-05-20  9:24                 ` [PATCH] UIO: generic platform driver Uwe Kleine-König
2008-05-20 21:08                   ` Hans J. Koch
2008-05-26  5:58                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-05-26  6:02                       ` Greg KH
2008-05-30  9:16                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-05-30 16:35                           ` Greg KH
2008-06-03  7:21                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-06-03  9:24                               ` Hans J. Koch
2008-05-20 21:12                 ` [PATCH] UIO: don't let UIO_CIF and UIO_SMX depend twice on UIO Hans J. Koch
2008-04-22 13:39   ` [PATCH 0/3] UIO: cleanup and platform driver Hans J. Koch

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