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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] Marker probes in futex.c
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:00:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080416140009.GA13968@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080416064630.22428aea@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

* Arjan van de Ven (arjan@infradead.org) wrote:
> 
> > >     4631:       b0 00                   mov    $0x0,%al
> > >     4633:       84 c0                   test   %al,%al
> > >     4635:       0f 85 c6 00 00 00       jne    4701
> 
> the use of partial registers here is unfortunate and probably quite expensive ;(
> 
> 

Yes, but it saves instruction cache. That's a tradeoff.

> > > If we want to support NMI context and have the ability to
> > > instrument preemptable code without too much headache, we must
> > > insure that every modification will leave the code in a "correct"
> > > state and that we do not grow the size of any reachable
> > > instruction.  Also, we must insure gcc did not put code between
> > > these instructions. Modifying non-relocatable instructions would
> > > also be a pain, since we would have to deal with instruction
> > > pointer relocation in the breakpoint code when the code
> > > modification is being done.
> 
> you also need to make sure no cpu is executing that code ever.. 
> but you already deal with that right?
> 

By "insure that every modification will leave the code in a "correct"
state", I mean that at any given time before, during or after the code
modification, if an NMI comes on any CPU and try to run the modified
code, it should have a valid version of the code to execute. Does it
make more sense ?

> > > 
> > > Luckily, gcc almost never place any code between the mov, test and
> > > jne instructions. But since we cannot we sure, we could dynamically
> > > check for this code pattern after the mov instruction. If we find
> > > it, then we play with it as if it was a single asm block, but if we
> > > don't find what we expect, then we use standard immediate values
> > > for that. I expect the heavily optimised version will be usable
> > > almost all the time.
> 
> I expect gcc to start using the macro-fusion capable ones more and more over time at least,
> and for that the compare and jmp need to be consecutive.
> 

Early reasults of the work I've done last night : I can detect about 96%
of the ~120 markers I've put in my instrumented kernel.

Not only does the compare and jmp need to be consecutive, but the movb
$0x0,%al also does. I *could* try to detect specific code inserted in
between, but I really have to make sure I don't get burned by the
compiler inserting a jmp there.

I'll post my work shortly.

Mathieu

> 
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Mathieu Desnoyers
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-16 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-15 11:50 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Debugging infrastructure for Futexes using Markers K. Prasad
2008-04-15 11:53 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] Marker probes in futex.c K. Prasad
2008-04-15 11:55   ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] Marker handler for the probes in futex file K. Prasad
2008-04-15 12:02   ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] Marker probes in futex.c Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-15 12:32     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-15 12:50       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-15 16:13         ` K. Prasad
2008-04-15 12:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-15 13:17         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-15 13:47           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-15 14:04             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-15 14:21               ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-15 14:39               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-15 16:48             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-15 21:38               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-16 13:17                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-16 13:46                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-16 14:00                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2008-04-16 14:24                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-16 14:29                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-16 14:48                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-16 15:32                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-16 15:39                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-16 20:10                   ` text_poke, vmap and vmalloc on x86_64 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-16 21:22                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-15 13:25         ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] Marker probes in futex.c Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-16 15:51           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 19:19             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-17 20:16               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-19 12:13                 ` K. Prasad
2008-04-19 21:33                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-18  6:56               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-15 15:52     ` K. Prasad
2008-04-16 15:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 22:02         ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-18  6:46           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-18 14:29             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-19 12:28               ` K. Prasad
2008-04-19 14:52               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-19 18:03                 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-19 18:29                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-19 18:48                     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-22 17:50                       ` Nicholas Miell
2008-04-19 14:13             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-19 14:56               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-18 10:44     ` Andrew Morton

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