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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
Cc: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Shawn Bohrer <shawn.bohrer@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: x86: 4kstacks default
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:20:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080420142056.GC26536@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <480B4EA1.5070305@sandeen.net>

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 09:09:37AM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> Mark Lord wrote:
> > Willy Tarreau wrote:
> >> What would really help would be to have 8k stacks with the lower page
> >> causing a fault and print a stack trace upon first access. That way,
> >> the safe setting would still report us useful information without
> >> putting users into trouble.
> > ..
> > 
> > That's the best suggestion from this thread, by far!
> > Can you produce a patch for 2.6.26 for this?
> > Or perhaps someone else here, with the right code familiarity, could?
> > 
> > Some sort of CONFIG option would likely be wanted to
> > either enable/disable this feature, of course.
> 
> Changing the default warning threshold is easy, it's just a #define.

I thought it was checked only at a few places (eg: during irqs). If so,
maybe it can miss some call chains ?

> Although setting it too low would spam syslogs on some setups.

we should set it slightly below the 4k limit if we want users to switch
to 4k.

> When I was trying to cram stuff into 4k in the past, I had a patch which
> added a sysctl to dynamically change the warning threshold, and
> optionally BUG() when I hit it for crash analysis.  It was good for
> debugging, at least.  If something along those lines is desired, I could
> resurrect it.

While it's good for debugging, having users tweak the limit to eliminate
the warning is the opposite of what we're looking for. We just want to
have them report the warning without their service being disrupted.

Willy


  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-20 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200804181737.m3IHbabI010051@hera.kernel.org>
2008-04-18 21:29 ` x86: 4kstacks default Andrew Morton
2008-04-19 14:23   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-19 14:35     ` Oliver Pinter
2008-04-19 15:19       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-19 15:42         ` Oliver Pinter
2008-04-20  1:56         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20  7:42           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 16:59             ` Chris Wedgwood
     [not found]         ` <480AA2B9.10305__23983.3358479247$1208657639$gmane$org@sandeen.net>
2008-04-20 11:48           ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-19 14:59     ` Shawn Bohrer
2008-04-19 18:00       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-19 18:33         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-19 19:10           ` Stefan Richter
2008-04-20  2:36         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20  6:11           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 22:53           ` David Chinner
2008-04-20  8:09       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20  8:06         ` Alan Cox
2008-04-20  8:51           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20  9:36             ` Alan Cox
2008-04-20 10:44               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 11:02                 ` Alan Cox
2008-04-20 11:54                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 11:37                     ` Alan Cox
2008-04-20 12:18                       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 14:05                         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 14:21                           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 14:56                             ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 15:41                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 16:03                             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-21  3:30                               ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2008-04-23  8:57                                 ` Helge Hafting
2008-04-21  7:45                           ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-21  9:55                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-21 13:29                             ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-21 19:51                               ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-21 20:28                                 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22  1:28                                 ` David Chinner
2008-04-22  2:33                                   ` [PATCH] xfs: do not pass size into kmem_free, it's unused Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22  3:03                                     ` [PATCH] xfs: do not pass unused params to xfs_flush_pages Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22  3:14                                       ` [PATCH] xfs: use smaller int param in call " Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22  3:18                                         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22  4:10                                           ` David Chinner
2008-04-22  9:42                                         ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused parameter of xfs_qm_dqpurge Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 10:16                                           ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused parameter of xfs_iomap_write_allocate Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 11:20                                             ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters of xfs_bmap_add_free and xfs_btree_read_bufl Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 11:48                                               ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters for seven functions in xfs_trans.h Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 11:51                                               ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 13:32                                                 ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused params from functions in xfs_dir2_leaf.h Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 13:40                                                   ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused params from functions in xfs/quota/* Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 13:46                                                     ` [PATCH] xfs: expose no-op xfs_put_perag() Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 14:08                                                       ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 23:16                                                       ` David Chinner
2008-04-22 23:08                                                     ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused params from functions in xfs/quota/* David Chinner
2008-04-22 22:47                                                 ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters for seven functions in xfs_trans.h David Chinner
2008-04-22 14:28                                               ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters of xfs_bmap_add_free and xfs_btree_read_bufl Adrian Bunk
2008-04-22 16:17                                                 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 17:21                                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-22 17:26                                                     ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 17:50                                                       ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 18:28                                                         ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters of?xfs_bmap_add_free " Adrian Bunk
2008-04-22 19:32                                                           ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 23:53                                                             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-22 20:46                                                       ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters of xfs_bmap_add_free " Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 22:43                                               ` David Chinner
2008-04-22 22:33                                             ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused parameter of xfs_iomap_write_allocate David Chinner
2008-04-22 22:11                                           ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused parameter of xfs_qm_dqpurge David Chinner
2008-04-23  8:18                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-22 22:08                                         ` [PATCH] xfs: use smaller int param in call to xfs_flush_pages David Chinner
2008-04-22  3:15                                       ` [PATCH] xfs: do not pass unused params " Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22  8:57                                         ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22  9:56                                           ` Jakub Jelinek
2008-04-22 10:33                                             ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 12:51                                           ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 22:07                                       ` David Chinner
2008-04-22  3:09                                     ` [PATCH] xfs: do not pass size into kmem_free, it's unused Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22  3:35                                       ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 22:02                                     ` David Chinner
2008-04-22 12:48                                   ` x86: 4kstacks default Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 13:01                                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-22 13:51                                       ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-27 19:27                                   ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-27 23:02                                     ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-27 23:08                                       ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-28  0:00                                         ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-20 12:37                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 12:27                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 12:32                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 12:47                   ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-20 13:06                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 13:30                       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 13:34                         ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-20 14:04                           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-28 17:56                         ` Bill Davidsen
2008-04-20 13:21                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-23  9:13                       ` Helge Hafting
2008-04-23 23:29                         ` David Chinner
2008-04-24 15:46                         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-28 18:38                       ` Bill Davidsen
2008-04-20 13:27                     ` Mark Lord
2008-04-20 13:38                       ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-20 14:19                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 16:41                           ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-20 17:19                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 17:43                               ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-20 18:19                                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 18:50                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 20:09                                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 21:50                                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-20 21:55                                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-21 14:29                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-20 20:32                                   ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-20 20:35                                   ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-20 14:09                       ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 14:20                         ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2008-04-20 14:40                           ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 15:44                   ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-20 17:26                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 18:48                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 20:01                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 20:43                           ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-20 21:40                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 22:17                               ` Bernd Eckenfels
2008-04-20 23:48                                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-21  1:45                               ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-21  7:51                                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-21 17:34                                   ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-20 22:33                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 22:33                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 23:16                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-21  5:53                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-21  3:06                             ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 21:45                         ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-20 21:51                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-22 18:20                     ` Romano Giannetti
2008-04-23  5:03                       ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-23  5:21                         ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-23  5:25                           ` david
2008-04-23  5:41                             ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-23  7:46                               ` Romano Giannetti
2008-04-23 11:24                                 ` Stefan Richter
2008-04-23 12:15                                   ` Romano Giannetti
2008-04-23 15:59                                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-20 13:22                 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-19 17:49     ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-25 17:39       ` Parag Warudkar
2008-04-20  3:29     ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 12:36       ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-21 14:31       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-23  5:27     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-23 23:36       ` David Chinner
2008-04-24  0:45         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-24  9:52           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-24 12:25             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-24 15:41             ` Chris Mason
2008-04-24 18:30               ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-04-24  0:56         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found] <ak6tq-32p-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <ak6tq-32p-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-04-19 10:56   ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found] ` <akFri-4yB-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <akGQg-7TX-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <akKhi-91-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-04-20 20:23       ` Bodo Eggert
2008-04-20 20:59         ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-21 20:05           ` Bodo Eggert
2008-04-22 15:34             ` Daniel Hazelton

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