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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] use canary at end of stack to indicate overruns at oops time
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:44:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080422084404.GA2388@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <480D5F27.1030101@redhat.com>


* Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com> wrote:

> Use a canary at the end of the stack to clearly indicate at oops time 
> whether the stack has ever overflowed.
> 
> This is a very simple implementation with a couple of drawbacks:
> 
> 1) a thread may legitimately use exactly up to the last
>    word on the stack
> 
>  -- but the chances of doing this and then oopsing later seem slim

even that narrow case is a bug - an NMI might arrive at exactly that 
point and overflow the stack for real.

> 2) it's possible that the stack usage isn't dense enough
>    that the canary location could get skipped over
> 
>  -- but the worst that happens is that we don't flag the overrun

yeah.

> With the code in place, an intentionally-bloated stack oops does:
> 
> BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at ffff8103f84cc680
> IP: [<ffffffff810253df>] update_curr+0x9a/0xa8
> PGD 8063 PUD 0 
> Thread overran stack or stack corrupted
> Oops: 0000 [1] SMP 
> CPU 0 
> ...

excellent. I've queued this up, it's definitely an improvement in 
debuggability.

we used to have something comparable in ancient kernels (it was called 
the stack red zone IIRC) - but it was not printed in oopses and we lost 
the feature somewhere anyway.

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-22  8:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-22  3:44 [PATCH] use canary at end of stack to indicate overruns at oops time Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22  4:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-22  8:44 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-04-22 16:44   ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 17:18     ` [PATCH] Fix max-stack calculators to skip canary Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 17:33       ` Joe Perches
2008-04-22 18:09         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-28 17:28       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22 21:38 ` [PATCH V2] use canary at end of stack to indicate overruns at oops time Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 22:14   ` Harvey Harrison
2008-04-22 22:28     ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-28 17:31   ` Ingo Molnar

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