From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
peterz@infradead.org, sam@ravnborg.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/11] x86: convert to generic helpers for IPI function calls
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:08:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080423070819.GU12774@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080423011153.GB17572@wotan.suse.de>
On Wed, Apr 23 2008, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:50:30PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > >
> > > ok. In which case the reschedule vector could be consolidated into that
> > > as well (it's just a special single-CPU call). Then there would be no
> > > new vector allocations needed at all, just the renaming of
> > > RESCHEDULE_VECTOR to something more generic.
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > Btw, don't get me wrong - I'm not against multiple vectors per se. I just
> > wonder if there is any real reason for the code duplication.
> >
> > And there certainly *can* be tons of valid reasons for it. For example,
> > some of the LAPIC can only have something like two pending interrupts per
> > vector, and after that IPI's would get lost.
> >
> > However, since the queuing is actually done with the data structures, I
> > don't think it matters for the IPI's - they don't need any hardware
> > queuing at all, afaik, since even if two IPI's would be merged into one
> > (due to lack of hw queueing) the IPI handling code still has its list of
> > events, so it doesn't matter.
> >
> > And performance can be a valid reason ("too expensive to check the shared
> > queue if we only have per-cpu events"), although I$ issues can cause that
> > argument to go both ways.
> >
> > I was also wondering whether there are deadlock issues (ie one type of IPI
> > has to complete even if a lock is held for the other type).
> >
> > So I don't dislike the patch per se, I just wanted to understand _why_ the
> > IPI's wanted separate vectors.
>
> The "too expensive to check the shared queue" is one aspect of it. The
> shared queue need not have events *for us* (at least, unless Jens has
> changed the implementation a bit) but it can still have events that we
> would need to check through.
That is still the case, the loop works the same way still.
To answer Linus' question on why it was done the way it was - the
thought of sharing the IPI just didn't occur to me. For performance
reasons I'd like to keep the current setup, but it's certainly a viable
alternative for archs with limited number of IPIs available (like the
mips case that Ralf has disclosed).
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-23 7:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-22 18:50 [PATCH 0/11] Generic smp_call_function() #2 Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 1/11] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 20:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-23 6:07 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 6:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-23 7:49 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 7:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-24 22:01 ` Russell King
2008-04-25 7:18 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-26 6:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-28 7:38 ` Jes Sorensen
2008-04-26 6:11 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-26 14:13 ` James Bottomley
2008-04-27 0:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-27 10:36 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-27 10:30 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-28 14:25 ` David Howells
2008-04-28 14:43 ` James Bottomley
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 2/11] x86: convert to generic helpers for " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-22 19:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22 19:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-22 19:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22 19:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-23 1:11 ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23 1:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-23 1:36 ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23 7:08 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2008-04-23 12:54 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-26 6:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-27 10:23 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-27 15:18 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 3/11] powerpc: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 4/11] ia64: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 5/11] alpha: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 6/11] arm: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 7/11] m32r: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 8/11] mips: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 23:18 ` Ralf Baechle
2008-04-23 7:18 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 9/11] parisc: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 10/11] sh: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-25 8:56 ` Paul Mundt
2008-04-25 9:16 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 11/11] s390: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 7:58 ` Heiko Carstens
2008-04-23 8:11 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 11:21 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 11:47 ` Heiko Carstens
2008-04-23 11:54 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 12:42 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-04-23 15:56 ` Rusty Russell
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-04-22 7:57 [PATCH 0/11] Generic smp_call_function() and friends Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 7:57 ` [PATCH 2/11] x86: convert to generic helpers for IPI function calls Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 8:38 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-04-22 8:43 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 11:15 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 8:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22 8:48 ` Jacek Luczak
2008-04-22 8:56 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 9:04 ` Jacek Luczak
2008-04-22 8:52 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-26 8:59 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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