From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: get_online_cpus() && workqueues
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:56:49 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080428105649.GE143@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080428070256.GB14285@in.ibm.com>
On 04/28, Gautham R Shenoy wrote:
>
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 06:43:30PM +0400, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > Can't we add another nested lock which is dropped right after __cpu_die()?
> > (in fact I think it could be dropped after __stop_machine_run).
> >
> > The new read-lock is get_online_map() (just a random name for now). The only
> > difference wrt get_online_cpus() is that it doesn't protect against CPU_DEAD,
> > but most users of get_online_cpus() doesn't need this, they only need a
> > stable cpu_online_map and sometimes they need to be sure that some per-cpu
> > object (say, cpu_workqueue_struct->thread) can't be destroyed under this
> > lock.
> >
> > get_online_map() seem to fit for this, and can be used from work->func().
> > (actually, I think most users of use get_online_cpus() could use the new
> > helper instead, but this doen't matter).
>
> However, subsystems such as cpufreq require serialization with respect
> to the whole CPU-Hotplug operation since they do initialization and
> cleanup pre and post the change of the cpu_online_map.
> The current code, or this patch doesn't help in such cases
> when such subsystems have multithreaded workqueues!
Yes, I see, thanks. Heiko has pointed this too.
> One of the thoughts I have is to provide an API along the lines of
> try_get_online_cpus() which will return 1 if there is no CPU Hotplug
> operation in progress and will return 0 otherwise. In case where
> a cpu-hotplug operation is in progress, the workitem could simply
> do nothing other than requeue itself and wait for the cpu-hotplug
> operation to complete.
Yes, possible, but it is not nice that work->func() can't just use
get_online_cpus()...
> Else, we might want to do something like what slab.c does.
> It sets the per-cpu work.func of the cpu-going down to NULL in
> CPU_DOWN_PREPARE.
Yes, but this is different. Please note also that this particular
work must not use get_online_cpus(), no matter what changes we can
make. Otherwise cancel_delayed_work_sync() can deadlock.
What do you think about another patch I sent? I am not happy with it,
and it certainly uglifies cpu.c, but it is simple...
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-28 10:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-14 3:04 2.6.25-rc9 -- INFO: possible circular locking dependency detected Miles Lane
2008-04-14 3:29 ` Miles Lane
2008-04-14 6:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-14 7:02 ` Heiko Carstens
2008-04-14 7:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-14 12:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-14 12:27 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-04-14 12:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-14 13:28 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-04-14 14:48 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-04-14 15:19 ` Heiko Carstens
2008-04-14 15:46 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-04-14 19:35 ` Heiko Carstens
2008-04-15 13:52 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-04-15 14:37 ` Heiko Carstens
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2008-04-26 14:43 ` get_online_cpus() && workqueues Oleg Nesterov
2008-04-27 12:22 ` Heiko Carstens
2008-04-27 14:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-04-28 7:02 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-04-28 10:56 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2008-04-28 12:03 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-04-28 12:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-04-28 11:57 ` Gautham R Shenoy
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