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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Bryan Wu <cooloney@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	willy@debian.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org, richterd@citi.umich.edu
Subject: Re: [LTP/VFS] fcntl SETLEASE fails on ramfs/tmpfs
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:11:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080429221107.GH26468@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8bd0f97a0804291501i2751d688h933508df2a4587b4@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 06:01:47PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:42 PM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> >  The one thing I suspect is *not* a really serious problem here is the
> >  reported LTP failure, since probably the only user of this is Samba,
> >  which probably doesn't do a lot of tmpfs exports, and in any case it can
> >  probably soldier on (if with degraded performance--how badly I don't
> >  know) without getting the write lease it wants.
> 
> i'm not sure i follow.  the reported problem is that file locking does
> not work on tmpfs/ramfs storage.  a not terribly uncommon scenario is
> to use tmpfs on /tmp (or similar location) and have file locking not
> work at all.  so programs that use file locking or scripts that
> leverage the flock utility from the util-linux package break.

There are three different mechanisms that might be called "file locks":

	- fcntl() locks, aka "posix locks", "byte-range locks":
	  documented in the "Advisory locking" section of fcntl(2).
	- flock() locks: documented in flock(2) This is what the shell
	  utility from util-linux uses.
	- leases, documented in the "Leases" section of fcntl(2).

For the former two, I agree with you, applications actually depend on
them.

The bug report, however, is for leases, which are much less widely used.
(The only users I know of are Samba and, to a lesser extent, NFSv4
(which doesn't currently use write leases due to all these problems).)

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-29 22:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-29  3:42 [LTP/VFS] fcntl SETLEASE fails on ramfs/tmpfs Bryan Wu
2008-04-29 20:54 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-29 21:42   ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-04-29 22:01     ` Mike Frysinger
2008-04-29 22:11       ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2008-04-29 22:15         ` Mike Frysinger
2008-04-29 23:21     ` david m. richter
2008-04-30 17:50       ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-04-30 18:14         ` david m. richter
2008-05-01  6:24     ` Al Viro
2008-05-02 22:22       ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-04-29 22:21   ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-01  6:33     ` Al Viro
2008-05-02 22:26       ` J. Bruce Fields

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