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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s), linux-embedded@vger list
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:41:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080501104158.GM20451@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1209636171.25560.508.camel@pmac.infradead.org>

> To a large extent, I agree. I certainly don't want to focus solely on
> code size; there's a lot more to embedded Linux than that. But it _is_

Not only code size, far more important is dynamic memory consumption.
[admittedly we right now lack a good instrumentation framework for this]

> There are some cases where we really _do_ want to have CONFIG options,
> but I agree that we should keep them to a minimum. And when we _do_ have
> CONFIG options, they don't have to litter the actual code with ifdefs.

The problem I see is more that really nobody can even compile not 
alone test all these combinations anymore. Hidding the problem in inlines
does not solve that. And no randconfig is not the solution either.

> > of years ago with some numbers 
> > (http://halobates.de/memory.pdf and http://halobates.de/memorywaste.pdf) 
> > And CONFIG is definitely not the right way to approach that, the right
> > way is better data structures, better algorithms to size tables, just
> > some general care etc.
> 
> Stuff like shrinking the rbtree structure by encoding the colour in the
> low bits of the parent pointer, perhaps? :)

Whatever pays off.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-01 10:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-30 17:42 [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s), linux-embedded@vger list David Woodhouse
2008-04-30 17:44 ` [PATCH 1/1] " David Woodhouse
2008-05-01  9:55   ` Bart Van Assche
2008-05-01 10:05     ` David Woodhouse
2008-05-01 11:12       ` Bart Van Assche
2008-04-30 18:22 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Andi Kleen
2008-04-30 19:11   ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-23 17:22     ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-06-23 18:57       ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-23 19:12         ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-06-23 19:33           ` Sam Ravnborg
     [not found]   ` <48190B5F.9010505@am.sony.com>
     [not found]     ` <20080501095822.GL20451@one.firstfloor.org>
2008-05-01 10:02       ` David Woodhouse
2008-05-01 10:41         ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-05-02 15:00           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-02 20:01             ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-05-02 20:14               ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-02 20:33                 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-05-02 20:53                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-03 22:24                     ` Randy Dunlap
2008-05-05  1:52                       ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-23 17:28           ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-06-23 17:45             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-23 18:19               ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-06-23 19:05               ` Tim Bird
2008-06-25  9:50               ` James Chapman
2008-06-25 15:41                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-30 18:26 ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-30 18:43   ` David Woodhouse
2008-04-30 18:45     ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-30 23:34 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-01  7:04   ` David Woodhouse
2008-05-02 11:58 ` Kristoffer Ericson

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