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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 00/37] Linux Kernel Markers instrumentation for sched-devel.git
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 11:08:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080504150840.GC23137@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1209290413.6503.8.camel@lappy>

* Peter Zijlstra (a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl) wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 16:11 -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > * Peter Zijlstra (a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl) wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 11:03 -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > > > Hi Ingo,
> > > > 
> > > > Here is a rather large patchset applying kernel instrumentation to
> > > > sched-devel.git. It includes, mainly :
> > > 
> > > I saw this land in sched-devel, how about this:
> > > 
> > 
> > I think the main reason why those markers are ugly is they have
> > information meant for use by a general purpose tracer (it will only take
> > the parameters before the ## signs).
> > 
> > The other way around is to start specializing the general purpose tracer
> > to extract the information it needs from the task and rq pointers and
> > put that in the traces. Actually, that's the approach I use currently
> > use in LTTng, but Ingo seemed interested to have the union of parameters
> > needed by specialized and GP tracers, so this is what I did.
> > 
> > The only thing I dislike with the approach of putting everything in a
> > separatered header is that it adds a layer of indirection when one try
> > to to quickly grep for trace_mark() in the kernel tree to see where the
> > conceptual tracing points are. Therefore, it might be interesting to
> > simply remove the parameters meant for the general purpose tracer and
> > let this GP tracer create specialized probes for these instrumentation
> > sites. It would therefore remove the ugliness without creating a
> > supplementary indirection layer.
> 
> In part its the extra parameters, but to a large part its that darn
> string. I'm still not getting why we can't just live with trace marks
> like 'regular' functions much like the ones I used to wrap trace_mark().
> 
> > > Index: linux-2.6-2/kernel/sched_trace.h
> > > ===================================================================
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ linux-2.6-2/kernel/sched_trace.h
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,41 @@
> > > +#include <linux/marker.h>
> > > +
> > > +static inline void trace_kernel_sched_wait(struct task_struct *p)
> > > +{
> > > +	trace_mark(kernel_sched_wait_task, "pid %d state %ld",
> > > +			p->pid, p->state);
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +static inline
> > > +void trace_kernel_sched_wakeup(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p)
> > > +{
> > > +	trace_mark(kernel_sched_wakeup,
> > > +			"pid %d state %ld ## rq %p task %p rq->curr %p",
> > > +			p->pid, p->state, rq, p, rq->curr);
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +static inline
> > > +void trace_kernel_sched_wakeup_new(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p)
> > > +{
> > > +	trace_mark(kernel_sched_wakeup_new,
> > > +			"pid %d state %ld ## rq %p task %p rq->curr %p",
> > > +			p->pid, p->state, rq, p, rq->curr);
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +static inline void trace_kernel_sched_switch(struct rq *rq,
> > > +		struct task_struct *prev, struct task_struct *next)
> > > +{
> > > +	trace_mark(kernel_sched_schedule,
> > > +			"prev_pid %d next_pid %d prev_state %ld "
> > > +			"## rq %p prev %p next %p",
> > > +			prev->pid, next->pid, prev->state,
> > > +			rq, prev, next);
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +static inline void
> > > +trace_kernel_sched_migrate_task(struct task_struct *p, int src, int dst)
> > > +{
> > > +	trace_mark(kernel_sched_migrate_task,
> > > +			"pid %d state %ld dest_cpu %d",
> > > +			p->pid, p->state, dst);
> > > +}
> 
> One advantage of having these things close together would be that it
> stimulates consistency between the various trace points. Something that
> would be sorely needed with such a  free form mechanism.
> 

I was thinking of the possibility of per-subsystem list of
instrumentation sites, which would become more or less fixed, anyway,
which is what you seem to propose here. Given that it also cleans up the
scheduler code, I think it's interesting to do.

Do you have an updated version following Andrew's comments I could Ack ?
:)

Mathieu


> Peter
> 

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Mathieu Desnoyers
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-04 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-24 15:03 [patch 00/37] Linux Kernel Markers instrumentation for sched-devel.git Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 01/37] Stringify support commas Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 02/37] x86_64 page fault NMI-safe Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 03/37] Change Alpha active count bit Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 04/37] Change avr32 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 05/37] x86 NMI-safe INT3 and Page Fault Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 06/37] Kprobes - use a mutex to protect the instruction pages list Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 07/37] Kprobes - do not use kprobes mutex in arch code Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 08/37] Kprobes - declare kprobe_mutex static Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 09/37] Fix sched-devel text_poke Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 10/37] Text Edit Lock - Architecture Independent Code Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 11/37] Text Edit Lock - kprobes architecture independent support Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 12/37] Add all cpus option to stop machine run Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 13/37] Immediate Values - Architecture Independent Code Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-25 14:55   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-26  9:36     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-26 11:09       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-26 14:17         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 14/37] Immediate Values - Kconfig menu in EMBEDDED Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 15/37] Immediate Values - x86 Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 16/37] Add text_poke and sync_core to powerpc Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 17/37] Immediate Values - Powerpc Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 18/37] Immediate Values - Documentation Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 19/37] Immediate Values Support init Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 20/37] Immediate Values - Move Kprobes x86 restore_interrupt to kdebug.h Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 21/37] Add __discard section to x86 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 22/37] Immediate Values - x86 Optimization NMI and MCE support Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 23/37] Immediate Values - Powerpc Optimization NMI " Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 24/37] Immediate Values Use Arch NMI and MCE Support Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 25/37] Immediate Values - Jump Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 26/37] Scheduler Profiling - Use Immediate Values Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 27/37] From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org> Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-28  9:54   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-28 12:37     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 28/37] Markers - remove extra format argument Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 29/37] Markers - define non optimized marker Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 30/37] Linux Kernel Markers - Use Immediate Values Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 31/37] Markers use imv jump Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 32/37] Port ftrace to markers Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 33/37] LTTng instrumentation fs Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 34/37] LTTng instrumentation ipc Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 23:02   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-25  2:15     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-25 12:56       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-25 13:17         ` [RFC] system-wide in-kernel syscall tracing Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-05-04 21:04         ` [patch 34/37] LTTng instrumentation ipc Alexey Dobriyan
2008-05-04 20:39           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-24 15:03 ` [patch 35/37] LTTng instrumentation kernel Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:04 ` [patch 36/37] LTTng instrumentation mm Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-28  2:12   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-04-24 15:04 ` [patch 37/37] LTTng instrumentation net Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 15:52   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-04-24 16:13     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-24 16:30       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-04-26 19:38 ` [patch 00/37] Linux Kernel Markers instrumentation for sched-devel.git Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-26 20:11   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-27 10:00     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-04 15:08       ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2008-04-28 18:22   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-28 18:36   ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-28 18:40     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-28 18:47       ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-28 18:49         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-28 19:01         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-04-28 19:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-28 22:25       ` Masami Hiramatsu

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