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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Matthew <jackdachef@gmail.com>
Cc: Kasper Sandberg <lkml@metanurb.dk>,
	Daniel J Blueman <daniel.blueman@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: performance "regression" in cfq compared to anticipatory, deadline and noop
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 21:30:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080513193016.GW16217@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e85b9d30805131223t68108feesa92ef1a7ca6fdb8a@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 13 2008, Matthew wrote:
> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, May 13 2008, Jens Axboe wrote:
> >  > On Tue, May 13 2008, Matthew wrote:
> >  > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com> wrote:
> >  > > >
> >  > > > On Tue, May 13 2008, Matthew wrote:
> >  > > >  > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com> wrote:
> >  > > >  > >
> >  > > >  > > On Sun, May 11 2008, Kasper Sandberg wrote:
> >  > > >  > >  > On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 14:14 +0100, Daniel J Blueman wrote:
> >  > > >  > >  > > I've been experiencing this for a while also; an almost 50% regression
> >  > > >  > >  > > is seen for single-process reads (ie sync) if slice_idle is 1ms or
> >  > > >  > >  > > more (eg default of 8) [1], which seems phenomenal.
> >  > > >  > >  > >
> >  > > >  > >  > > Jens, is this the expected price to pay for optimal busy-spindle
> >  > > >  > >  > > scheduling, a design issue, bug or am I missing something totally?
> >  > > >  > >  > >
> >  > > >  > >  > > Thanks,
> >  > > >  > >  > >   Daniel
> >  > > >  > [snip]
> >  > > >  > ...
> >  > > >  > [snip]
> >  > > >  > >  >
> >  > > [snip]
> >  > >
> >  > > ...
> >  > >
> >  > > [snip]
> >  > > >  > well - back to topic:
> >  > > >  >
> >  > > >  > for a blktrace one need to enable  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IO_TRACE , right ?
> >  > > >  > blktrace can be obtained from your git-repo ?
> >  > > >
> >  > > >  Yes on both accounts, or just grab a blktrace snapshot from:
> >  > > >
> >  > > >  http://brick.kernel.dk/snaps/blktrace-git-latest.tar.gz
> >  > > >
> >  > > >  if you don't use git.
> >  > > >
> >  > > >  --
> >  > > >  Jens Axboe
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > >
> [snip]
> ...
> [snip]
> >  >
> >  > They seem to start out the same, but then CFQ gets interrupted by a
> >  > timer unplug (which is also odd) and after that the request size drops.
> >  > On most devices you don't notice, but some are fairly picky about
> >  > request sizes. The end result is that CFQ has an average dispatch
> >  > request size of 142kb, where AS is more than double that at 306kb. I'll
> >  > need to analyze the data and look at the code a bit more to see WHY this
> >  > happens.
> >
> >  Here's a test patch, I think we get into this situation due to CFQ being
> >  a bit too eager to start queuing again. Not tested, I'll need to spend
> >  some testing time on this. But I'd appreciate some feedback on whether
> >  this changes the situation! The final patch will be a little more
> >  involved.
> [snip]
> ...
> [snip]
> >
> >  --
> >  Jens Axboe
> >
> >
> 
> unfortunately that patch didn't help:
> 
> hdparm -t /dev/sde
> 
> /dev/sde:
>  Timing buffered disk reads:  178 MB in  3.03 seconds =  58.67 MB/sec
> 
> 
> hdparm -t /dev/sdd
> 
> /dev/sdd:
>  Timing buffered disk reads:  164 MB in  3.00 seconds =  54.61 MB/sec
> 
> -> the first should be around 74 MB/sec, the second around 102 MB/sec

Can you capture blktrace for that run as well, please? Just to have
something to compare with.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-13 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-11 13:14 performance "regression" in cfq compared to anticipatory, deadline and noop Daniel J Blueman
2008-05-11 14:02 ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-05-13 12:20   ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-13 12:58     ` Matthew
2008-05-13 13:05       ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]         ` <e85b9d30805130842p3a34305l4ab1e7926e4b0dba@mail.gmail.com>
2008-05-13 18:03           ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-13 18:40             ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-13 19:23               ` Matthew
2008-05-13 19:30                 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2008-05-14  8:05               ` Daniel J Blueman
2008-05-14  8:26                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-14 20:52                   ` Daniel J Blueman
2008-05-14 21:37                     ` Matthew
2008-05-15  7:01                       ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-15 12:21                         ` Fabio Checconi
2008-05-16  6:40                           ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-16  7:46                             ` Fabio Checconi
2008-05-16  7:49                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-16  7:57                                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-16  8:53                                   ` Daniel J Blueman
2008-05-16  8:57                                     ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-16 15:23                                       ` Matthew
2008-05-16 18:39                                         ` Fabio Checconi
2008-08-24 20:24                           ` Daniel J Blueman
2008-08-25 20:29                             ` Fabio Checconi
2008-08-25 15:39                               ` Daniel J Blueman
2008-08-25 17:06                                 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-12-09 15:14                                   ` Daniel J Blueman
     [not found]                   ` <e85b9d30805140332r3311b2d6r6831d37421ced757@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <e85b9d30805140334q69cb5eacued9a719414e73d53@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                       ` <20080514103956.GD16217@kernel.dk>
     [not found]                         ` <e85b9d30805141239g5df9abc6i666b1f621d632b44@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                           ` <e85b9d30805161549o7c8f065do24b6567e2ade0afa@mail.gmail.com>
2008-05-19 10:39                             ` Matthew
2008-05-13 13:51     ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-05-14  0:33       ` Kasper Sandberg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-10 19:18 Matthew
     [not found] ` <20080510200053.GA78555@gandalf.sssup.it>
2008-05-10 20:39   ` Matthew
2008-05-10 21:56     ` Fabio Checconi
2008-05-11  0:00     ` Aaron Carroll

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