From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752870AbYEONHk (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 May 2008 09:07:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754707AbYEONHX (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 May 2008 09:07:23 -0400 Received: from www.church-of-our-saviour.org ([69.25.196.31]:53319 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753547AbYEONHV (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 May 2008 09:07:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:06:54 -0400 From: Theodore Tso To: Takashi Iwai Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Roberto Oppedisano , Stas Sergeev Subject: Re: [Bug #10679] 2.6.26-rc1 regression: e5e1d3cb20034a3cbcfff1f0bae12201aa2ce17e breaks artsd Message-ID: <20080515130654.GC18825@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Tso , Takashi Iwai , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Roberto Oppedisano , Stas Sergeev References: <88YBFoyd1CN.A._sF.Ov1JIB@chimera> <20080514212011.GH7054@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@mit.edu X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 07:41:06AM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: > Sounds reasonable. To where should it be added, BTW? > Little people seem to care about Kconfig help texts, and an extra > comment block (with depends on SND_PCSP) could be annoying... That's a good question. A note that including including this module could potentially cause sound cards to be renumbered might be reasonable, since I suspect most users (and most application programs!) have been accustomed to only having one sound card, and so building this module may cause sound cards to be renumbered in Kconfig would at least be a start. I know this wouldn't help users of distro kernels, but this would at least be one way of warning distro maintainers to think twice about enabling it as a module. BTW, what *is* the utility of this card, and how do you use it? I haven't been able to figure out how to use it do anything entertaining at all. Any attempts to use it on my system just lead to various confusing error messages. Also, BTW, it might be nice to remove the following hunk of text from drivers/sound/Kconfig: I'm told that even without a sound card, you can make your computer say more than an occasional beep, by programming the PC speaker. Kernel patches and supporting utilities to do that are in the pcsp package, available at . What's there at the above URL is for the 2.2 and 2.4 kernels, and the utilities at pcsnd-kit.tar.gz don't work (and didn't compile until I futzed with them slightly). So I'm still rather puzzled how to make the snd-pcsp actually do anything useful, unless it simply doesn't work on my Thinkpad. (Is it normal that the sound volume levels reported by alsamixer can be muted or unmounted, but always report 0, and can't be adjusted up?) - Ted