From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760346AbYEQUqx (ORCPT ); Sat, 17 May 2008 16:46:53 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1758581AbYEQUqp (ORCPT ); Sat, 17 May 2008 16:46:45 -0400 Received: from testure.choralone.org ([194.9.77.134]:43220 "EHLO testure.choralone.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755286AbYEQUqo (ORCPT ); Sat, 17 May 2008 16:46:44 -0400 Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 16:47:25 -0400 From: Dave Jones To: Takashi Iwai Cc: Theodore Tso , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Roberto Oppedisano , Stas Sergeev Subject: Re: [Bug #10679] 2.6.26-rc1 regression: e5e1d3cb20034a3cbcfff1f0bae12201aa2ce17e breaks artsd Message-ID: <20080517204725.GA11460@codemonkey.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Dave Jones , Takashi Iwai , Theodore Tso , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Roberto Oppedisano , Stas Sergeev References: <88YBFoyd1CN.A._sF.Ov1JIB@chimera> <20080514212011.GH7054@mit.edu> <20080515130654.GC18825@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 06:36:29PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: > At Thu, 15 May 2008 09:06:54 -0400, > Theodore Tso wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 07:41:06AM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > Sounds reasonable. To where should it be added, BTW? > > > Little people seem to care about Kconfig help texts, and an extra > > > comment block (with depends on SND_PCSP) could be annoying... > > > > That's a good question. A note that including including this module > > could potentially cause sound cards to be renumbered might be > > reasonable, since I suspect most users (and most application > > programs!) have been accustomed to only having one sound card, and so > > building this module may cause sound cards to be renumbered in Kconfig > > would at least be a start. > > Yes. > > > I know this wouldn't help users of distro kernels, but this would at > > least be one way of warning distro maintainers to think twice about > > enabling it as a module. That arrived in my inbox slightly to late :) > Well, yeah, for distro kernels, it's then a problem of distributors :) >>From todays Fedora kernel changelog :- * Sat May 17 2008 Dave Jones - Disable CONFIG_SND_PCSP (#447039) Problem solved :-) More seriously, it doesn't seem that there's any way we can build this driver modular without it screwing up already working systems unless we cripple its MODULE_ALIAS to not autoload, allowing users who care about it (which will be in the minority anyway) to add it manually. Dave -- http://www.codemonkey.org.uk