From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>,
Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>,
Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Liam Howlett <howlett@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/2] Freezer: Try to handle killable tasks
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 00:59:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080519225910.GC2315@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200805072041.20210.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Wed 2008-05-07 20:41:19, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, 7 of May 2008, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 12:07:55AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > The introduction of TASK_KILLABLE allows the freezer to work in some situation
> > > that it could not handle before.
> > >
> > > Make the freezer handle killable tasks and add try_to_freeze() in some places
> > > where it is safe to freeze a (killable) task. Introduce the
> > > wait_event_killable_freezable() macro to be used wherever the freezing of
> > > a waiting killable task is desirable.
> >
> > Why do you say that TASK_KILLABLE allows the freezer to work in some
> > situations where it couldn't before? If something's using one of the
> > killable functions, it means that it knows how to clean up and unwind
> > gracefully if the task receives a fatal signal. I don't understand what
> > connection there is to the freezer.
>
> The reason why we don't freeze uninterruptible tasks is that we don't know
> why they are in that state. If one of tasks is uninterruptible for a
> relatively long time, that may indicate a non-recoverable error making it
> dangerous to put the system into a sleep state. If the task is killable,
> though, the situation is recoverable.
....but the task may still hold some locks, so we can't "just freeze
it".
Pavel
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-19 22:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-06 22:03 [RFC][PATCH 0/2] Freezer face lifting Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-06 22:05 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] Freezer: Introduce PF_FREEZER_NOSIG Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-07 0:38 ` [linux-pm] " Gautham R Shenoy
2008-05-07 12:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-07 9:36 ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 12:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-06 22:07 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] Freezer: Try to handle killable tasks Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-07 9:41 ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 13:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-07 18:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-07 13:53 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-07 18:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-19 22:59 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
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