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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Wim Van Sebroeck <wim@iguana.be>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3, RFC] watchdog dev BKL pushdown
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:30:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200805201030.14092.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080520062056.GA5292@infradead.org>

On Tuesday 20 May 2008, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 01:14:23AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > The Big Kernel Lock has been pushed down from chardev_open
> > to misc_open, this change moves it to the individual watchdog
> > driver open functions.
> > 
> > As before, the change was purely mechanical, most drivers
> > should actually not need the BKL.
> 
> Actually I'd prefer to fix this for real.  This single open stuff aswell
> as same set of ioctls are duplicated all over the watchdog drivers.  We'd
> be much better off introducing a simple watchdog layer that handles this
> plus proper locking and convert drivers over to it gradually.

I fully agree, I thought the same thing when I did the patches. I remember
that Wim had a git tree doing this, which is still active at
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/wim/linux-2.6-watchdog-experimental.git;a=commitdiff;h=732c54027e6c866f98857c4a6d1c6c466459dcd5

Unfortunately, it hasn't seen much activitity over the last two years, and
the number of watchdog drivers seems to have exploded: I count 67 of them,
including some outside of drivers/watchdog.

Wim, was there anything preventing you from integrating the generic
watchdog layer back then?

	Arnd <><

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-20  8:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-14 17:49 [announce] "kill the Big Kernel Lock (BKL)" tree Ingo Molnar
2008-05-14 18:30 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-14 21:00   ` Alan Cox
2008-05-14 21:13     ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-14 21:16       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-14 21:17         ` Alan Cox
2008-05-14 21:19       ` Alan Cox
2008-05-14 21:45         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 22:03           ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-15 13:34             ` Alan Cox
2008-05-15 14:27               ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-15 15:36                 ` Alan Cox
2008-05-16 10:21                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-15  8:02           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-14 18:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 19:41   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-14 20:05     ` Frederik Deweerdt
2008-05-14 21:45 ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-05-14 21:39   ` Alan Cox
2008-05-14 21:56   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 22:07     ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-05-14 22:14       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-22 20:20       ` Alan Cox
2008-05-16 15:44     ` [PATCH, RFC] char dev BKL pushdown Jonathan Corbet
2008-05-16 15:49       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-16 16:03         ` [PATCH] kill empty chardev open/release methods Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-16 16:24           ` Alan Cox
2008-05-16 20:55           ` Alan Cox
2008-05-18 19:46             ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-05-18 19:58               ` Alan Cox
2008-05-16 16:22       ` [PATCH, RFC] char dev BKL pushdown Alan Cox
2008-05-16 16:30       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-16 16:43         ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-05-17 21:15       ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-05-18 20:26         ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-05-19 23:07           ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]             ` <200805200111.47275.arnd@arndb.de>
2008-05-19 23:14               ` [PATCH 2/3, RFC] watchdog " Arnd Bergmann
2008-05-20  6:20                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-20  8:30                   ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2008-05-20 15:47                     ` Wim Van Sebroeck
2008-05-20 18:31                       ` Alan Cox
2008-05-20 21:00                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-05-22  9:34                           ` Alan Cox
2008-05-20  9:08                   ` Alan Cox
2008-05-20  8:42                 ` Alan Cox
2008-05-19 23:26             ` [PATCH 1/3, RFC] misc char " Arnd Bergmann
2008-05-20  0:07               ` Mike Frysinger
2008-05-20  0:21                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-05-20  0:46                   ` Mike Frysinger
2008-05-20  8:46               ` Alan Cox
2008-05-20 23:01               ` Mike Frysinger
2008-05-20 23:25                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-05-21 16:22                   ` Mike Frysinger
2008-05-19 23:34             ` [PATCH 3/3, RFC] remove BKL from misc_open() Arnd Bergmann
2008-05-20 15:13             ` [PATCH, RFC] char dev BKL pushdown Jonathan Corbet
2008-05-20 17:21               ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-05-20 18:51                 ` Alan Cox
2008-05-17 21:58       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-18 20:07         ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-05-14 22:11   ` [announce] "kill the Big Kernel Lock (BKL)" tree Andi Kleen
2008-05-14 22:16     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 22:21       ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-15 13:30         ` Alan Cox
2008-05-15 15:05         ` John Stoffel
2008-05-15 15:10           ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-15 15:18             ` John Stoffel
2008-05-15 15:45               ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-15  8:44   ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-05-15 14:54     ` Diego Calleja
2008-05-14 21:46 ` Alan Cox
2008-05-14 22:11   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 22:15   ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-15 17:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-15 20:27   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-15 20:45     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-15 21:22       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-17  0:14 ` Kevin Winchester
2008-05-17  0:37   ` Kevin Winchester

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