From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com, suresh.b.siddha@intel.com,
Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Amit K. Arora" <aarora@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/3] Scaled statistics using APERF/MPERF in x86
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:40:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080527094035.67ccda32@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080527140440.GD5181@dirshya.in.ibm.com>
On Tue, 27 May 2008 19:34:40 +0530
Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> What we are proposing is a scaled time value that is scaled to the
> current CPU capacity. If the scaled utilisation is 50% when the CPU
> is at 100% capacity, it is expected to remain at 50% even if the CPU's
> capacity is dropped to 50%, while the traditional utilisation value
> will be 100%.
When you use the word "capacity" I cringe ;(
>
> The problem in the above two cases is that we had assumed that the
> maximum CPU capacity is 100% at normal capacity (without IDA).
>
> If the CPU is at half the maximum frequency, then scaled stats should
> show 50%.
see frequency != capacity.
It's about more than frequency. It's about how much cache you have
available too. If you run single threaded on a dual core cpu, you have
100% of the cache, but the cpu is 50% idle. But that doesn't mean that
when you double the load, you actually get 2x the performance. So
you're not at 50% of capacity!
> The point I am trying to make is whether scaling should be done
> relative to CPUs designed maximum capacity or maximum capacity under
> current constraints is to be discussed.
now you're back at "capacity".. we were at frequency before ;(
>
> Case A:
> ------
>
> Scaled stats is stats relative to maximum designed capacity including
> IDA
you don't know what that is though.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-27 16:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-26 14:31 [RFC PATCH v1 0/3] Scaled statistics using APERF/MPERF in x86 Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-05-26 14:31 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/3] General framework for APERF/MPERF access and accounting Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-05-26 18:11 ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-27 14:54 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-05-26 14:31 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/3] Make calls to account_scaled_stats Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-05-26 18:18 ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-27 15:02 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-05-29 15:18 ` Michael Neuling
2008-05-29 18:23 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-05-26 14:31 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/3] Print scaled utime and stime in getdelays Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-05-26 15:50 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/3] Scaled statistics using APERF/MPERF in x86 Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-26 17:24 ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-26 18:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-26 18:36 ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-26 18:51 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-27 12:59 ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-27 13:19 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-05-27 14:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-27 15:27 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-05-31 21:27 ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-02 17:54 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-06-03 2:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-27 13:29 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-05-27 14:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-27 15:20 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-05-27 14:04 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-05-27 16:40 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2008-05-27 18:26 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-05-31 21:17 ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-31 21:13 ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-02 6:08 ` Balbir Singh
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