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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, safford@watson.ibm.com,
	serue@linux.vnet.ibm.com, sailer@watson.ibm.com,
	zohar@us.ibm.com, Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	CaseySchaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][Patch 5/5]integrity: IMA as an integrity service provider
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 09:54:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080531075425.GF5405@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080528012242.a0e98d87.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed 2008-05-28 01:22:42, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Fri, 23 May 2008 11:05:45 -0400 Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > This is a re-release of Integrity Measurement Architecture(IMA) as an
> > independent Linunx Integrity Module(LIM) service provider, which implements
> > the new LIM must_measure(), collect_measurement(), store_measurement(), and
> > display_template() API calls. The store_measurement() call supports two 
> > types of data, IMA (i.e. file data) and generic template data.
...
> Generally: the code is all moderately intrusive into the VFS and this
> sort of thing does need careful explanation and justification, please. 
> Once we have some understanding of what you're trying to achieve here
> we will inevitably ask "can't that be done in userspace".  So it would
> be best if your description were to preemptively answer all that.  

...also, it would be nice to see explanation 'what is this good for'.

Closest explanation I remember was 'it will protect you by making
system unbootable if someone stole disk with your /usr filesystem --
but not / filesystem -- added some rootkit, and then stealthily
returned it'. That seems a) very unlikely scenario and b) probably
better solved by encrypting /usr.
							Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-01 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-23 15:05 [RFC][Patch 5/5]integrity: IMA as an integrity service provider Mimi Zohar
2008-05-23 23:30 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-05-27  1:02   ` Mimi Zohar
2008-05-27 14:36   ` Mimi Zohar
2008-06-11 22:31     ` Randy Dunlap
2008-05-28  8:22 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-29  3:17   ` Mimi Zohar
2008-05-29  3:30     ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-29 21:50       ` Mimi Zohar
2008-05-29 23:35         ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-30  1:58           ` Mimi Zohar
2008-05-30  2:04             ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-30 13:06       ` Mimi Zohar
2008-05-29  3:33   ` Mimi Zohar
2008-05-31  7:54   ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2008-06-24 16:28     ` david safford
2008-08-05 17:35       ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-24 16:28   ` david safford
2008-08-05 17:32     ` Pavel Machek
     [not found] <20080627131946.225566613@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2008-06-27 16:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] integrity: " Mimi Zohar

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