From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754015AbYEaMut (ORCPT ); Sat, 31 May 2008 08:50:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752235AbYEaMul (ORCPT ); Sat, 31 May 2008 08:50:41 -0400 Received: from earthlight.etchedpixels.co.uk ([81.2.110.250]:49063 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752219AbYEaMul (ORCPT ); Sat, 31 May 2008 08:50:41 -0400 Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 13:35:47 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: Marcel Holtmann Cc: David Woodhouse , Oliver Neukum , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, Michael Zappe , Stephane Alnet , Brad Hards Subject: Re: [PATCH] kaweth: use request_firmware() Message-ID: <20080531133547.10b5d7f6@core> In-Reply-To: <7D3DC891-CC9A-4CBD-8DCF-E684A2FB36B2@holtmann.org> References: <1211708969@pmac.infradead.org> <1212070841.26088.28.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <200805301555.59327.oliver@neukum.org> <1212160598.8199.6.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20080530164842.31b23848@core> <7D3DC891-CC9A-4CBD-8DCF-E684A2FB36B2@holtmann.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.5; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > I was not late to the party. I was the first one using > request_firmware() and always keeping an eye on drivers using it and > making sure using it correctly. However drivers sneaked in without > that I realized it. Mainly because I don't have that hardware and > reviewing every single driver obviously never happened. Nothing in the documentation says that it can't have a heirarchical name, so naturally lots of people did it. They didn't sneak in - they improved on the interface and evolved it. They did it in a way that didn't upset anything else (which is why you didn't notice). No sneaking involved. > I repeatedly said that no hierarchical namespace should be used (and > this was a couple of years ago) and now since some developers misuse > it, it makes it right. It means by consensus the developer community decided that a heirarchical namespace was useful. And that is the party you've arrived late for. Alan