From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: sync_file_range(SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE) blocks?
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 01:00:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080601230040.GC2255@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080601154736.2e9f5905.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Sun 2008-06-01 15:47:36, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 00:22:02 +0200 Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz> wrote:
Hi!
> > > I sense a strangeness. What are you actually trying to do with all of this?
> >
> > Okay, so I have around 400MB of data, I want it compressed, optionally
> > encrypted and written to partition.
> >
> > Now, if I do it "naturally", I do writes, followed by fsync.
> >
> > That's bad, because kernel does not start write out immediately, and
> > we waste time with idle disk. (If data compress really well, or
> > encryption is off, this is significant).
> >
> > So we improve on this, by doing sync_file_range(SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE)
> > periodically. That keeps the disk busy, but occassionaly blocks the
> > cpu... wasting time (which mostly hurts in compression+encryption
> > case).
>
> yep. That's another use of sync_file_range(): to allow smart userspace
> to optimise the kernel's IO scheduling decisions.
>
> > So... how can I keep _both_ cpu and disk busy?
>
> pthread_create() ;)
Actually it is easy enough to do with fork(), but...
> How about this:
>
> - Add a new SYNC_FILE_RANGE_NON_BLOCKING
>
> - If userspace set that flag, turn on writeback_control.nonblocking
> in __filemap_fdatawrite_range().
>
> - test it a lot.
Works for me. Is the expectation that I code this? I can certainly
provide testing ;-).
> It will be userspace's responsibility to avoid burning huge amounts of
> CPU repeatedly calling sync_file_range() and having it not actually write
> anything.
Ok... I guess doing 10x sync_file_range() when writing 400MB of data
is not excessive?
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-01 23:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-30 10:26 sync_file_range(SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE) blocks? Pavel Machek
2008-05-30 13:58 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-05-30 20:43 ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-31 18:44 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-01 0:39 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-01 7:23 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-01 8:15 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-01 11:40 ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-01 20:37 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-01 22:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-01 22:22 ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-01 22:47 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-01 23:00 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2008-06-01 23:11 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-02 8:43 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-02 11:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-02 12:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-02 11:43 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-02 12:40 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-16 20:53 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-17 4:54 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-17 13:38 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-02 16:50 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-03 8:01 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-06-03 8:05 ` Pavel Machek
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