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* strange timestamp in dmesg
@ 2008-06-05 11:54 Denys Fedoryshchenko
  2008-06-06 10:19 ` Andrew Morton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Denys Fedoryshchenko @ 2008-06-05 11:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

I notice that timestamp shifting back in dmesg.
Probably it is because machine is dual CPU opteron. I am not sure that such
behaviour is good, and i think even dangerous, and maybe affect something else.


Here is dmesg example
[    7.065265] sky2 eth1: enabling interface
[    7.093844] nf_conntrack version 0.5.0 (16384 buckets, 65536 max)
[    8.308842] Fusion MPT base driver 3.04.06
[    8.308850] Copyright (c) 1999-2007 LSI Corporation
[    7.719943] Fusion MPT SAS Host driver 3.04.06
[    7.773135] Fusion MPT SPI Host driver 3.04.06
[    7.773196] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:05.0[A] -> GSI 26 (level, low) ->
IRQ 26
[    7.773233] mptbase: ioc0: Initiating bringup
[    7.983821] ioc0: LSI53C1020A A1: Capabilities={Initiator}
[    8.051145] scsi1 : ioc0: LSI53C1020A A1, FwRev=01032700h, Ports=1,
MaxQ=222, IRQ=26
[    9.730853] scsi 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access     SEAGATE  ST373207LW       0004
PQ: 0 ANSI: 3
[    9.730853]  target1:0:0: Beginning Domain Validation
[    9.690641]  target1:0:0: Ending Domain Validation
[   10.586005]  target1:0:0: FAST-160 WIDE SCSI 320.0 MB/s DT IU QAS RTI
WRFLOW PCOMP (6.25 ns, offset 63)
[    9.622284] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] 143374744 512-byte hardware sectors (73408 MB)
[    9.624360] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[    9.624360] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: ab 00 10 08
[    9.695636] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled,
supports DPO and FUA
[    9.759418] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] 143374744 512-byte hardware sectors (73408 MB)
[    9.630037] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[    9.630037] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: ab 00 10 08
[    9.700212] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled,
supports DPO and FUA
[    9.700212]  sdb: sdb1 sdb2
[    9.769373] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
[    9.774370] scsi 1:0:1:0: Direct-Access     SEAGATE  ST373207LW       0004
PQ: 0 ANSI: 3
[    9.774393]  target1:0:1: Beginning Domain Validation
[    9.733244]  target1:0:1: Ending Domain Validation
[    9.733289]  target1:0:1: FAST-160 WIDE SCSI 320.0 MB/s DT IU QAS RTI
WRFLOW PCOMP (6.25 ns, offset 63)
[   10.631379] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] 143374744 512-byte hardware sectors (73408 MB)
[   10.632811] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[   10.632819] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: ab 00 10 08
[    9.671056] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled,
supports DPO and FUA
[    9.801761] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] 143374744 512-byte hardware sectors (73408 MB)
[    9.673388] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[    9.673395] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: ab 00 10 08
[    9.806210] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled,
supports DPO and FUA
[    9.806220]  sdc: sdc1
[    9.682136] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk
[   13.786405] SGI XFS with large block numbers, no debug enabled
[   13.633457] XFS mounting filesystem sdb2
[   13.724345] Starting XFS recovery on filesystem: sdb2 (logdev: internal)
[   14.251356] Ending XFS recovery on filesystem: sdb2 (logdev: internal)
[   15.379298] XFS mounting filesystem sdc1
[   15.468255] Starting XFS recovery on filesystem: sdc1 (logdev: internal)
[   14.514314] Ending XFS recovery on filesystem: sdc1 (logdev: internal)
[   14.767260] warning: `squid' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)
[   17.589751] e1000: eth0: e1000_watchdog: NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full
Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX


--
Denys Fedoryshchenko
Technical Manager
Virtual ISP S.A.L.


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* Re: strange timestamp in dmesg
  2008-06-05 11:54 strange timestamp in dmesg Denys Fedoryshchenko
@ 2008-06-06 10:19 ` Andrew Morton
  2008-06-06 13:49   ` Andi Kleen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2008-06-06 10:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Denys Fedoryshchenko; +Cc: linux-kernel

On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:54:07 +0300 "Denys Fedoryshchenko" <denys@visp.net.lb> wrote:

> I notice that timestamp shifting back in dmesg.
> Probably it is because machine is dual CPU opteron. I am not sure that such
> behaviour is good, and i think even dangerous, and maybe affect something else.
> 
> 
> Here is dmesg example
> [    7.065265] sky2 eth1: enabling interface
> [    7.093844] nf_conntrack version 0.5.0 (16384 buckets, 65536 max)
> [    8.308842] Fusion MPT base driver 3.04.06
> [    8.308850] Copyright (c) 1999-2007 LSI Corporation
> [    7.719943] Fusion MPT SAS Host driver 3.04.06
> [    7.773135] Fusion MPT SPI Host driver 3.04.06
> [    7.773196] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:05.0[A] -> GSI 26 (level, low) ->
> IRQ 26
> [    7.773233] mptbase: ioc0: Initiating bringup
> [    7.983821] ioc0: LSI53C1020A A1: Capabilities={Initiator}
> [    8.051145] scsi1 : ioc0: LSI53C1020A A1, FwRev=01032700h, Ports=1,
> MaxQ=222, IRQ=26
> [    9.730853] scsi 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access     SEAGATE  ST373207LW       0004
> PQ: 0 ANSI: 3
> [    9.730853]  target1:0:0: Beginning Domain Validation
> [    9.690641]  target1:0:0: Ending Domain Validation
> [   10.586005]  target1:0:0: FAST-160 WIDE SCSI 320.0 MB/s DT IU QAS RTI
> WRFLOW PCOMP (6.25 ns, offset 63)
> [    9.622284] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] 143374744 512-byte hardware sectors (73408 MB)
> [    9.624360] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
> [    9.624360] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: ab 00 10 08
> [    9.695636] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled,
> supports DPO and FUA
> [    9.759418] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] 143374744 512-byte hardware sectors (73408 MB)
> [    9.630037] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
> [    9.630037] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: ab 00 10 08
> [    9.700212] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled,
> supports DPO and FUA
> [    9.700212]  sdb: sdb1 sdb2
> [    9.769373] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
> [    9.774370] scsi 1:0:1:0: Direct-Access     SEAGATE  ST373207LW       0004
> PQ: 0 ANSI: 3
> [    9.774393]  target1:0:1: Beginning Domain Validation
> [    9.733244]  target1:0:1: Ending Domain Validation
> [    9.733289]  target1:0:1: FAST-160 WIDE SCSI 320.0 MB/s DT IU QAS RTI
> WRFLOW PCOMP (6.25 ns, offset 63)
> [   10.631379] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] 143374744 512-byte hardware sectors (73408 MB)
> [   10.632811] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
> [   10.632819] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: ab 00 10 08
> [    9.671056] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled,
> supports DPO and FUA
> [    9.801761] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] 143374744 512-byte hardware sectors (73408 MB)
> [    9.673388] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
> [    9.673395] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: ab 00 10 08
> [    9.806210] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled,
> supports DPO and FUA
> [    9.806220]  sdc: sdc1
> [    9.682136] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk
> [   13.786405] SGI XFS with large block numbers, no debug enabled
> [   13.633457] XFS mounting filesystem sdb2
> [   13.724345] Starting XFS recovery on filesystem: sdb2 (logdev: internal)
> [   14.251356] Ending XFS recovery on filesystem: sdb2 (logdev: internal)
> [   15.379298] XFS mounting filesystem sdc1
> [   15.468255] Starting XFS recovery on filesystem: sdc1 (logdev: internal)
> [   14.514314] Ending XFS recovery on filesystem: sdc1 (logdev: internal)
> [   14.767260] warning: `squid' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)
> [   17.589751] e1000: eth0: e1000_watchdog: NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full
> Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX
> 

whoa, that's weird.  We've seen timestamps jump forward a single hop of
~100000 seconds, but that's all over the place.

Which kernel version is this, and in which kernel did it start happening?

Thanks.

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* Re: strange timestamp in dmesg
  2008-06-06 10:19 ` Andrew Morton
@ 2008-06-06 13:49   ` Andi Kleen
  2008-06-06 18:25     ` Andrew Morton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Andi Kleen @ 2008-06-06 13:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton; +Cc: Denys Fedoryshchenko, linux-kernel

Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> writes:

>> supports DPO and FUA
>> [    9.801761] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] 143374744 512-byte hardware sectors (73408 MB)
>> [    9.673388] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
>> [    9.673395] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: ab 00 10 08
>> [    9.806210] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled,
>> supports DPO and FUA
>> [    9.806220]  sdc: sdc1
>> [    9.682136] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk
>> [   13.786405] SGI XFS with large block numbers, no debug enabled
>> [   13.633457] XFS mounting filesystem sdb2
>> [   13.724345] Starting XFS recovery on filesystem: sdb2 (logdev: internal)
>> [   14.251356] Ending XFS recovery on filesystem: sdb2 (logdev: internal)
>> [   15.379298] XFS mounting filesystem sdc1
>> [   15.468255] Starting XFS recovery on filesystem: sdc1 (logdev: internal)
>> [   14.514314] Ending XFS recovery on filesystem: sdc1 (logdev: internal)
>> [   14.767260] warning: `squid' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)
>> [   17.589751] e1000: eth0: e1000_watchdog: NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full
>> Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX
>> 
>
> whoa, that's weird.  We've seen timestamps jump forward a single hop of
> ~100000 seconds, but that's all over the place.

No it's expected since printk uses sched_clock() and sched clock is not synchronous
between CPUs on systems without synchronized/invariant TSC (like Opteron)
All sched_clock() users are expected to handle it.

I always advocated just always using jiffies for printk. The only drawback would
be that it won't increase in interrupt off sections, but if you have
one that is longer than a jiffie then you have enough other problems.

-Andi

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* Re: strange timestamp in dmesg
  2008-06-06 13:49   ` Andi Kleen
@ 2008-06-06 18:25     ` Andrew Morton
  2008-06-06 18:40       ` Andi Kleen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2008-06-06 18:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andi Kleen; +Cc: Denys Fedoryshchenko, linux-kernel

On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:49:26 +0200 Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:

> Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> writes:
> 
> >> supports DPO and FUA
> >> [    9.801761] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] 143374744 512-byte hardware sectors (73408 MB)
> >> [    9.673388] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
> >> [    9.673395] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: ab 00 10 08
> >> [    9.806210] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled,
> >> supports DPO and FUA
> >> [    9.806220]  sdc: sdc1
> >> [    9.682136] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk
> >> [   13.786405] SGI XFS with large block numbers, no debug enabled
> >> [   13.633457] XFS mounting filesystem sdb2
> >> [   13.724345] Starting XFS recovery on filesystem: sdb2 (logdev: internal)
> >> [   14.251356] Ending XFS recovery on filesystem: sdb2 (logdev: internal)
> >> [   15.379298] XFS mounting filesystem sdc1
> >> [   15.468255] Starting XFS recovery on filesystem: sdc1 (logdev: internal)
> >> [   14.514314] Ending XFS recovery on filesystem: sdc1 (logdev: internal)
> >> [   14.767260] warning: `squid' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)
> >> [   17.589751] e1000: eth0: e1000_watchdog: NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full
> >> Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX
> >> 
> >
> > whoa, that's weird.  We've seen timestamps jump forward a single hop of
> > ~100000 seconds, but that's all over the place.
> 
> No it's expected since printk uses sched_clock() and sched clock is not synchronous
> between CPUs on systems without synchronized/invariant TSC (like Opteron)
> All sched_clock() users are expected to handle it.

We've seen a storm of hey-my-timestamps-went-weird reports in just the
past month or so.  I don't recall it being (such) a problem before that.

Did we change something?

> I always advocated just always using jiffies for printk. The only drawback would
> be that it won't increase in interrupt off sections, but if you have
> one that is longer than a jiffie then you have enough other problems.

I forget why, but we _were_ going to have an (arch-overrideable)
printk_clock() function.  And we still could.  The x86 implementation
of that could fall back to jiffies if the TSCs are out of whack?

<googles>

In fact it looks like we _did_ have a printk_clock(), only someone stole it.

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* Re: strange timestamp in dmesg
  2008-06-06 18:25     ` Andrew Morton
@ 2008-06-06 18:40       ` Andi Kleen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Andi Kleen @ 2008-06-06 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton; +Cc: Andi Kleen, Denys Fedoryshchenko, linux-kernel

On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 11:25:47AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> We've seen a storm of hey-my-timestamps-went-weird reports in just the
> past month or so.  I don't recall it being (such) a problem before that.
> 
> Did we change something

Nominally not, but who really knows with 5 digit number worth of changesets?

At least 64bit should have been always like this, but you only
see it on specific circumstances.

> > I always advocated just always using jiffies for printk. The only drawback would
> > be that it won't increase in interrupt off sections, but if you have
> > one that is longer than a jiffie then you have enough other problems.
> 
> I forget why, but we _were_ going to have an (arch-overrideable)
> printk_clock() function.  And we still could.  The x86 implementation
> of that could fall back to jiffies if the TSCs are out of whack?

The rewritten sched_clock I used to plug, but which yielded about
zero interest, had one.

-Andi


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