From: "Uwe Kleine-König" <Uwe.Kleine-Koenig@digi.com>
To: "Hans J. Koch" <hjk@linutronix.de>
Cc: Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"gregkh@suse.de" <gregkh@suse.de>,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"lethal@linux-sh.org" <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] uio_pdrv: Unique IRQ Mode
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:32:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080609123204.GA27803@digi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080609095408.GB3223@local>
Hi Hans,
Hans J. Koch wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 09:57:01AM +0200, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > Hello Hans,
> >
> > > Did you notice that in this thread nobody spoke up to support your
> > > patch?
> > Actually I like what the patch tries to achieve. I'd like to have it a
> > bit more explicit tough:
> >
> > - Provide the irq disabling handler in uio_pdrv.c (or even uio.c) with a
> > prototype in an adequate header. Then the platforms that want this
> > kind of handling can request it explicitly.
>
> You could provide an irqcontrol() function in uio_pdrv that calls a function
> defined in board support. If no function is defined there, it returns
> -ENOSYS. That would be consistent behaviour and not limited to
> non-shared interrupts. Note that this requires the add-write-function
> patch I recently posted.
I didn't check, but I think this is what is happening just now, though
with a different implementation: board support passed the uio_info which
might or might not include a irqcontrol() function. This is given
unchanged to uio_register. Assuming that writing without an
irqcontrol() function yields -ENOSYS we're already there.
> > - Don't use this handler automatically.
> >
> > - Provide the function named uio_pdrv_unique_irqcontrol in Magnus' patch
> > in uio_pdrv.c and in an adequate header.
>
> Why invent a new name? The approach above works with all kinds of irqs on
> all platforms.
>
> >
> > - Either rely on userspace to enable the irq before reading/polling or
> > assert that in kernel space. See also
> > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/684683/focus=689635
> > (I asked tglx about the race condition via irc, but without a response
> > so far.)
>
> There are two problems:
> 1) If the hardware is designed in such a broken way that userspace needs
> a read-modify-write operation on a combined irq mask/status register to
> re-enable the irq, then this is racy against a new interrupt that occurs
> simultaneously. We have seen this on two devices so far.
You didn't understand what I want. (Probably because I choosed a poor
wording.)
IMHO it should be asserted that irqs are on before waiting for the irq
in poll and read. So I suggest to call irqcontrol(ON) before doing so.
This should allow to work with that kind of hardware, right?
> 2) If we wanted to make sure the interrupt is enabled in read() and
> poll(), we would have the problem that userspace usually calls poll()
> and then read() immediately afterwards. This would enable the irq twice,
> which can lead to two interrupts being seen in some cases.
OK, for this case a pending flag would be needed. (This doesn't mean I
suggest to implement it that way.) I'll think about that a bit.
> For both reasons, we decided that introducing the write() function to
> enable and disable irqs is the best solution. Greg already added that
> patch to his tree, so it should appear in one of the next kernels.
>
> > Currently the former is done, but if we decide to let it as it is, I'd
> > like to have it documented. (I.e. something like: "Before
> > polling/reading /dev/uioX assert that irqs are enabled.")
>
> We cannot do this, at least not in a clean way.
We cannot document it in a clean way? (Probably not, I assume "this"
still refers to "enable the irq in read and poll"?)
> > The last point is a bit independent from that mode, but applies to
> > devices that have a irqcontrol function in general.
> >
> > Apart from the general things above, I'd change a few things in the
> > implementation:
> >
> > - call dev_info->irqcontrol(OFF) in the handler (instead of
> > disable_irq()) and demand that calling this is idempotent.
> > With this change it isn't uio_pdrv specific any more and could go to
> > uio.c.
>
> Why should we want to do this? You save five lines of irq handler code
> by introducing the need for an irqcontrol() function.
Taking Magnus' patch there is a default irqcontrol() function that does
the right thing in this case. This should probably go to uio_pdrv.c.
> I already said that in the discussion with Magnus, I don't see any
> advantage in this. Magnus cannot tell me either, he just keeps telling
> me "but we can do it" over and over again.
I think the benefit is to add some code to uio_pdrv and/or uio and in
turn save some code in board support code. In fact this is similar to
the whole uio_pdrv driver. Each platform could implement it without
much hassle itself. But having all that in one central place makes it
easier for most people.
Best regards
Uwe
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-09 12:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-04 6:08 [PATCH] uio_pdrv: Unique IRQ Mode Magnus Damm
2008-06-04 10:11 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-06-05 1:25 ` Magnus Damm
2008-06-05 6:49 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-06-06 2:55 ` Magnus Damm
2008-06-06 10:04 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-06-08 10:03 ` Magnus Damm
2008-06-05 9:09 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-06-05 9:46 ` Magnus Damm
2008-06-05 11:27 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-06-08 10:19 ` Magnus Damm
2008-06-08 20:54 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-06-09 1:12 ` Magnus Damm
2008-06-09 8:44 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-06-09 9:01 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-09 12:34 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-06-10 3:12 ` Greg KH
2008-06-10 4:40 ` Magnus Damm
2008-06-10 7:10 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-06-10 7:14 ` [PATCH] UIO: minor style and comment fixes Uwe Kleine-König
2008-06-10 9:07 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-06-10 13:50 ` [PATCH] uio_pdrv: Unique IRQ Mode Magnus Damm
2008-06-10 17:32 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-10 19:24 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-06-09 4:09 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-09 7:57 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-06-09 8:00 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-09 9:54 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-06-09 12:32 ` Uwe Kleine-König [this message]
2008-06-09 14:20 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-06-10 6:11 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-06-10 9:01 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-06-05 11:33 ` Uwe Kleine-König
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