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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
To: Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>
Cc: Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
	penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, righi.andrea@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] relay: Fix race condition which occurs when reading across CPUs.
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:22:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080616122249.GB18561@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080614181103.17617db1@linux360.ro>

* Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu (eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro) wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:26:41 -0500
> Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Alternatively, you could get rid of the problem by making sure CPU0
> > never reads CPU1's data, by having the userspace reader use per-cpu
> > threads and using sched_setaffinity() to pin each thread to a given
> > cpu. See for example, the blktrace code, which does this.
> 
> Yes, and performance-wise this is better. Though I'm not sure setting
> affinity is 100% safe. Will the thread be migrated soon enough, so we
> don't read cross-CPU? The point is I'm not sure how hard this is
> enforced.
> 
> However, I suggest this patch should go in, for two reasons:
> 1. It provides expected behavior in any such situation.
> 2. It adds (almost) no overhead when used in conjuction with setting CPU
> affinity. When the writer acquires the spinlock, it does not busy-wait,
> so the spinlock just disables IRQs (relay_write()).
>  

Hi Eduard,

Two objections against this. First, taking a spinlock _is_ slow in SMP
because it involves synchronized atomic operations.

Second, Adding a spinlock to the relay write side is bad since it
opens the door to deadly embrace between a trap handler and normal
kernel code both running tracing code.

Unless really-really needed, which does not seem to be the case, I would
strongly recommend not merging this patch.

Mathieu


> > Actually, in a few days or so I'm planning on releasing the first cut
> > of a library that makes this and all the rest of the nice blktrace
> > userspace code available to other tracing applications, not just
> > blktrace.  Hopefully it would be something that you'd be able to use
> > for kmemtrace as well; in that case, you'd just use the library and
> > not have to worry about these details.
> 
> Sounds good. Thanks for letting me know.
> 
> 
> 	Eduard
> 

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Mathieu Desnoyers
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-16 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-13  1:09 [PATCH 2/3] relay: Fix race condition which occurs when reading across CPUs Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-06-14  4:26 ` Tom Zanussi
2008-06-14 15:11   ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-06-14 16:16     ` Pekka Enberg
2008-06-16  5:38       ` Tom Zanussi
2008-06-16  6:19         ` Pekka Enberg
2008-06-17  4:52           ` Tom Zanussi
2008-06-16 12:22     ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2008-06-16 13:22       ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-06-16 16:46         ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-16 18:18           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-06-16 18:23             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-06-16 18:28             ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-17 12:39               ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-06-17 12:49                 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-06-17 13:10                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-06-17 13:35                     ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-06-17 13:50                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-06-17 14:55                         ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-06-17 12:55                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-06-17 13:21                   ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-12 20:26 Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-06-12 22:58 ` Andrea Righi
2008-06-12 23:15   ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu

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