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From: Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
Cc: Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
	penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, righi.andrea@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] relay: Fix race condition which occurs when reading across CPUs.
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:22:12 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080616162212.27a8c119@linux360.ro> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080616122249.GB18561@Krystal>

On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:22:49 -0400
Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org> wrote:

> Hi Eduard,

Hi.

> Two objections against this. First, taking a spinlock _is_ slow in SMP
> because it involves synchronized atomic operations.

In any case, if we use relay in a hot path, we are doing debugging, so
a couple of atomic operations won't be a big problem. Along with
setting affinity, this shouldn't be a problem.

> Second, Adding a spinlock to the relay write side is bad since it
> opens the door to deadly embrace between a trap handler and normal
> kernel code both running tracing code.

We disable IRQs. However, interrupts which cannot be disabled (AFAIK
this includes SMM, traps, probably NMIs (but they can be disabled at
least on x86)) either don't use kernel code (SMM) or run through safe
paths. But this is the case with all spinlocks used in interrupt context.

The only other option would be to try the lock and let relay_write fail
sometimes.

> Unless really-really needed, which does not seem to be the case, I
> would strongly recommend not merging this patch.

My question was if affinity setting offers any guarantees. If it does,
then maybe we could do without this patch.

BTW, I'm not saying affinity setting doesn't help. It helps
performance-wise and I'll use it, but it should also offer correctness.
 
> Mathieu

	Cheers,
	Eduard

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-16 13:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-13  1:09 [PATCH 2/3] relay: Fix race condition which occurs when reading across CPUs Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-06-14  4:26 ` Tom Zanussi
2008-06-14 15:11   ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-06-14 16:16     ` Pekka Enberg
2008-06-16  5:38       ` Tom Zanussi
2008-06-16  6:19         ` Pekka Enberg
2008-06-17  4:52           ` Tom Zanussi
2008-06-16 12:22     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-06-16 13:22       ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu [this message]
2008-06-16 16:46         ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-16 18:18           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-06-16 18:23             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-06-16 18:28             ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-17 12:39               ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-06-17 12:49                 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-06-17 13:10                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-06-17 13:35                     ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-06-17 13:50                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-06-17 14:55                         ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-06-17 12:55                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-06-17 13:21                   ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-12 20:26 Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-06-12 22:58 ` Andrea Righi
2008-06-12 23:15   ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu

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