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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk
Cc: mchan@broadcom.com, dwmw2@infradead.org, bastian@waldi.eu.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bnx2 - use request_firmware()
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:58:38 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080708.015838.245133409.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080708073922.6c2470c1@the-village.bc.nu>

From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 07:39:22 +0100

> > The firmware needs to be reloaded every time the chip resets.
> > You're not saving anything/
> 
> > See above, you aren't saving anything.  The firmware needs to stay
> > around so it can be reloaded into the card during exceptions.
> > 
> > That is, unless you want a more failure prone system.
> 
> Ok so if tg3 always needs the same firmware and always needs it in memory
> then maybe it isn't a significant candidate for request_firmware beyond
> the neatness of distribution. I note the firmware hasn't changed in years
> so it can easily be shipped separately and the one package would have
> done for all this time.

It isn't just tg3.  All the broadcom gigabit chips need this
kind of handling.

Basically all of the drivers we are pushing back on.

I bet there are other similar examples.

> > > Driver authors aren't God.
> > 
> > They (actually, more specifically the maintainers) to a certain extent
> > are, because they are the ones who eat doo-doo when something explodes.
> 
> So do the distributions and the users.

Not really. The dist folks and users hit a problem, and it rolls
downhill quickly, and more often than not it plops right on the head
of the driver maintainer.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-08  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080704225415.GA557@wavehammer.waldi.eu.org>
2008-07-05  9:44 ` [PATCH] bnx2 - use request_firmware() David Woodhouse
2008-07-07  4:21   ` Michael Chan
2008-07-07  7:53     ` Bastian Blank
2008-07-07  9:03     ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-07 18:56       ` Michael Chan
2008-07-07 21:38         ` David Miller
2008-07-07 21:19           ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 22:05             ` David Miller
2008-07-08  6:39               ` Alan Cox
2008-07-08  8:58                 ` David Miller [this message]
2008-07-09 20:25                   ` request_firmware vs. resume (was Re: [PATCH] bnx2 - use request_firmware()) Pavel Machek
2008-07-09 21:13                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-09 21:20                       ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 21:58                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-09 22:23                           ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 22:33                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-07 22:08             ` [PATCH] bnx2 - use request_firmware() Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 23:01               ` David Miller
2008-07-08  6:41               ` Alan Cox
2008-07-08  9:00                 ` David Miller
2008-07-08  3:30             ` david
2008-07-08  6:49               ` Alan Cox

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