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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
	Kirill Korotaev <dev@parallels.com>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Nadia.Derbey@bull.net,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	nick@nick-andrew.net, Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Checkpoint/restart (was Re: [PATCH 0/4] - v2 - Object creation with a specified id)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:32:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080710173246.GA1857@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1215709949.9398.15.camel@nimitz>

Quoting Dave Hansen (dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com):
> On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 18:58 -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > In the worst case today we can restore a checkpoint by replaying all of
> > the user space actions that took us to get there.  That is a tedious
> > and slow approach.
> 
> Yes, tedious and slow, *and* minimally invasive in the kernel.  Once we
> have a tedious and slow process, we'll have some really good points when
> we try to push the next set of patches to make it less slow and tedious.
> We'll be able to describe an _actual_ set of problems to our fellow
> kernel hackers.
> 
> So, the checkpoint-as-a-corefile idea sounds good to me, but it
> definitely leaves a lot of questions about exactly how we'll need to do
> the restore.

Talking with Dave over irc, I kind of liked the idea of creating a new
fs/binfmt_cr.c that executes a checkpoint-as-a-coredump file.

One thing I do not like about the checkpoint-as-coredump is that it begs
us to dump all memory out into the file.  Our plan/hope was to save
ourselves from writing out most memory by:

	1. associating a separate swapfile with each container
	2. doing a swapfile snapshot at each checkpoint
	3. dumping the pte entries (/proc/self/)

If we do checkpoint-as-a-coredump, then we need userspace to coordinate
a kernel-generated coredump with a user-generated (?) swapfile snapshot.
But I guess we figure that out later.

-serge

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-10 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-18  5:44 [PATCH 0/4] - v2 - Object creation with a specified id Nadia.Derbey
2008-04-18  5:45 ` [PATCH 1/4] - v2 - Provide a new procfs interface to set next id Nadia.Derbey
2008-04-18  5:45 ` [PATCH 2/4] - v2 - Provide a new procfs interface to set next upid nr(s) Nadia.Derbey
2008-04-18  5:45 ` [PATCH 3/4] - v2 - IPC: use the target ID specified in procfs Nadia.Derbey
2008-04-18  5:45 ` [PATCH 4/4] - v2 - PID: " Nadia.Derbey
2008-04-18 17:07 ` [PATCH 0/4] - v2 - Object creation with a specified id Dave Hansen
2008-04-21 11:32   ` Nadia Derbey
2008-04-22 19:36 ` Checkpoint/restart (was Re: [PATCH 0/4] - v2 - Object creation with a specified id) Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-22 18:56   ` Dave Hansen
2008-04-22 19:51     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-04-22 21:01     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-22 22:56       ` Dave Hansen
2008-04-23  6:40         ` Kirill Korotaev
2008-04-23 15:33           ` Dave Hansen
2008-04-24  7:00             ` Kirill Korotaev
2008-04-24 18:30               ` Dave Hansen
2008-04-24 23:13                 ` Oren Laadan
2008-04-24  1:19           ` Oren Laadan
2008-07-10  1:58             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 17:12               ` Dave Hansen
2008-07-10 17:32                 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2008-07-10 18:55                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 19:06                     ` Dave Hansen
2008-07-10 19:21                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 19:47                         ` Dave Hansen
2008-07-11  0:32                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-07-17 23:19                           ` Oren Laadan
2008-07-17 23:16                   ` Oren Laadan
2008-07-18 16:18                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-07-17 23:14                 ` Oren Laadan
2008-07-17 23:09               ` Oren Laadan
2008-04-23 14:23 ` [PATCH 0/4] - v2 - Object creation with a specified id Pavel Machek

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