From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>,
Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@gmail.com>,
Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
Max Krasnyansky <maxk@qualcomm.com>, Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
miaox@cn.fujitsu.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: current linux-2.6.git: cpusets completely broken
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:42:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080713174252.GA13115@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0807130943530.2959@woody.linux-foundation.org>
* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> The thing is, we should fix the top level code to never even
> _consider_ an invalid CPU as a target, and that in turn should mean
> that all the other code should be able to just totally ignore CPU
> hotplug events.
agreed. We thought we could get away by hiding the "is the CPU dead"
information in existing data structures (by shaping sched domains to
never lead to a dead CPU) - but this method has proven itself fragile
via a series of bugs.
It was one micro-optimization one too many. We should just accept the
fact that the current model is not maintainable and add your extra (and
trivial) cpu_active_map layer that protects against migrating to CPUs
that are going down. [we'll basically introduce a "going down" state
inbetween 'online' and 'offline']
And this will get rid of some other fragile trickery - because from that
point on we dont have to be super-careful about the whole sequence of
manipulating sched domains anymore. Cpusets can do whatever it wants, it
wont be able to break hotplug+scheduling - and that's important for any
functionality that is not used by default.
[ I dont think Dmitry will disagree with this notion all that much, it's
just that his personal limit for calling an algorithm unmaintainable
is probably a lot higher than normal :-) ]
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-13 17:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-11 19:07 current linux-2.6.git: cpusets completely broken Vegard Nossum
2008-07-11 19:36 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-11 19:43 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-11 20:07 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-11 23:03 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-11 23:19 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-11 23:53 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 3:17 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-12 3:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 10:00 ` Miao Xie
2008-07-12 11:05 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 10:04 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 19:19 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-12 20:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 21:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 22:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 22:43 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-12 23:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 23:00 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-12 23:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 23:19 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 23:25 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 23:05 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 23:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 9:53 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-13 17:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 17:42 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-07-13 17:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 18:13 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-13 18:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-13 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 18:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 23:25 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-13 15:29 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-14 15:49 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-14 22:38 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-14 23:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 0:00 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-15 0:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 2:21 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-15 3:03 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-15 4:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 8:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-15 8:42 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-15 8:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-15 9:12 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-16 6:35 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-16 7:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-16 17:01 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-15 3:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-07-15 3:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 3:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-07-15 4:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 4:16 ` Steven Rostedt
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-07-12 10:45 Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-12 11:14 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-13 0:10 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-13 8:50 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-07-13 9:41 ` Ingo Molnar
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