From: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Stoyan Gaydarov <stoyboyker@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: From 2.4 to 2.6 to 2.7?
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:24:44 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080715142444.GA7121@asus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0807141914280.3017@woody.linux-foundation.org>
[Linus Torvalds - Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 07:22:04PM -0700]
|
|
| On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Stoyan Gaydarov wrote:
| >
| > Second I wanted to talk about the linux 2.7.x kernel, whats in the
| > making or maybe even not started
|
| Nothing.
|
| I'm not going back to the old model. The new model is so much better that
| it's not even worth entertaining as a theory to go back.
|
| That said, I _am_ considering changing just the numbering. Not to go back
| to the old model, but because a constantly increasing minor number leads
| to big numbers. I'm not all that thrilled with "26" as a number: it's hard
| to remember.
|
| So I would not dismiss (and have been thinking about starting) talk about
| a simple numbering reset (perhaps yearly), but the old model of 3-year
| developement trees is simply not coming back as far as I'm concerned.
|
| In fact, I think the time-based releases (ie the "2 weeks of merge window
| until -rc1, followed by roughly two months of stabilization") has been so
| successful that I'd prefer to skip the version numbering model too. We
| don't do releases based on "features" any more, so why should we do
| version _numbering_ based on "features"?
|
| For example, I don't see any individual feature that would merit a jump
| from 2.x to 3.x or even from 2.6.x to 2.8.x. So maybe those version jumps
| should be done by a time-based model too - matching how we actually do
| releases anyway.
|
| So if the version were to be date-based, instead of releasing 2.6.26,
| maybe we could have 2008.7 instead. Or just increment the major version
| every decade, the middle version every year, and the minor version every
| time we make a release. Whatever.
|
| But three-year development trees with a concurrent stable tree? Nope. Not
| going to happen.
|
| Linus
|
Hi to all! Since I've been Cc'ed :) I think I'm not the right person
to be asked about numbering scheme (and since I'm not that long in
kernel) BUT actually I think there is only one question - it's not
about how to number the kernel but rather what we trying to say by
numbering scheme. Some areas should be distinguished:
- development/stable team
- distros
- regular users
Most developers work with git trees and rather carries about sha1 then
a version number :) So eventually numbering scheme is not that important
for developers by its own.
Distros - well, i think distros use they own scheme anyway so they don't
really care about kernel versioning scheme (Gentoo-2008, Fedora-9, Ubuntu-8.04...)
So we have the quite large group of people which should be considered for
convenient versioning scheme - _regular users_. Lets say I'm a regular user -
the most convenient scheme for me would be YYYY.r.s i think since it tells
me - this kernel is fresh enough to be used on my shining laptop, and maybe
it even supports all hardware I have! And at least it looks good -
Linux-2008.0.0
but personally i don't really care that much :)
- Cyrill -
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-15 14:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-15 2:10 From 2.4 to 2.6 to 2.7? Stoyan Gaydarov
2008-07-15 2:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 2:31 ` Stoyan Gaydarov
2008-07-15 2:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 3:55 ` david
2008-07-15 5:31 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-07-15 6:40 ` Rafael C. de Almeida
2008-07-15 7:23 ` Stoyan Gaydarov
2008-07-15 7:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-17 17:25 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-17 19:56 ` Craig Milo Rogers
2008-07-17 20:21 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-19 8:00 ` Craig Milo Rogers
2008-07-19 8:52 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-19 20:49 ` Craig Milo Rogers
2008-07-19 20:56 ` david
2008-07-19 21:56 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-20 8:34 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-20 14:53 ` Stefanos Harhalakis
2008-07-19 19:30 ` Peter T. Breuer
2008-07-19 21:16 ` Craig Milo Rogers
2008-07-19 23:10 ` Peter T. Breuer
2008-07-15 8:29 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-07-15 12:41 ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-07-15 13:18 ` Alberto Gonzalez
2008-07-15 18:06 ` Charles grey wolf Banas
2008-07-15 20:43 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-16 7:53 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-16 7:57 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-17 22:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-15 10:10 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-15 11:31 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-15 15:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 15:27 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-07-15 15:32 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-18 9:02 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-16 21:11 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-07-15 12:38 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-15 14:07 ` Byron Stanoszek
2008-07-16 21:14 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-07-17 0:03 ` Alex Chiang
2008-07-17 12:38 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-07-17 20:02 ` Alex Chiang
2008-07-15 14:24 ` Cyrill Gorcunov [this message]
2008-07-15 16:36 ` Tobias Brox
2008-07-15 18:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-16 4:22 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-16 6:55 ` Rafael C. de Almeida
2008-07-16 7:17 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-16 7:30 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-16 9:34 ` Peter T. Breuer
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-07-17 22:05 Alastair Stevens
2008-07-17 22:40 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-07-18 8:23 ` Peter T. Breuer
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