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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
Cc: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 0/4] Port KVM-trace to tracepoints -> LTTng ?
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:12:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080722221204.GA14661@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <488635A7.2030609@qumranet.com>

* Avi Kivity (avi@qumranet.com) wrote:
> Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
>> Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com> writes:
>>
>>   
>>> [...]
>>> kvm tracepoints are heavily tied into the implementation; and making
>>> them harder to write means we will have less information.  In fact, I
>>> am contemplating moving in another direction (when looking at the
>>> pgprintk()s scattered around arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c:
>>>
>>>   kvm_trace("pfentry", "page_fault entry addr %lx error code %x\n",
>>> cr2, error_code);
>>>
>>> Unlike printk()s, no actual formatting would occur during runtime.
>>>     
>>
>> Have you considered using trace_mark() directly - eliminating the
>> KVM_TRACEN() middlemen?
>>
>>   
>
> Eliminating KVM_TRACEN -- yes.  There are too many of them, they aren't 
> type-aware, and they're in uppercase.
>
> Using trace_mark() directly -- looking at it, seems to fit the requirements 
> exactly.  Should have looked at it earlier.  Is there a way to get a list 
> of all markers?
>
> Perhaps the kvmtrace marker->relay integration should be made a marker 
> feature, since there is nothing specific to kvm in it.
>
>>> Instead, at initialization time all the strings would be parsed into
>>> a data structure that describes the data types, and the runtime
>>> would simply consult this structure and copy the arguments into
>>> trace records.  User space would also be able to pull this structure
>>> and so recreate the formatted string.
>>>     
>>
>> If one really wanted to, one could build such a mechanism on top of
>> marker-based callbacks.
>>
>>   
>
> One does want to.
>
>>>  - no need to have a formats file in userspace (which is tied to the
>>> kernel version)
>>>     
>>
>> OTOH, you'd have the kernel collecting compact binary records
>> containing just the parameters, which are at least as tied to kernel
>> version.
>>
>>   
>
> Yes, but the userspace side would collect the format strings as well (just 
> once) and could put them in the same file.  The aggregation is portable 
> across kernel versions.
>

Yes,

LTTng does exactly all that.

Please have a look at the current LTTng patchset :

http://ltt.polymtl.ca/lttng/patch-2.6.26-0.11.tar.bz2

The interface to list markers is currently found in /proc/ltt

Commands like :

cat /proc/ltt (list markers)
And echo -n "connect marker_name default dynamic channel_name"

See the script ltt-armall.sh in the package :

http://ltt.polymtl.ca/lttng/ltt-control-0.50-17072008.tar.gz

To see how to arm all markers listed.

General information (compatibility list and quickstart guide are
available at http://ltt.polymtl.ca). Packages also useful : lttv (trace
analyser, including text dump, filtering, gui...) and a userspace marker
package (only supports x86 32/64 currently).

All these packages support any kind of custom markers, because the
marker names/types are listed in the "facilities_*" control tracefile at
trace start, so the traces are self-described. I also list other stuff
(memory maps, irq handler names, system call handler names) at trace
start so we can dynamically have these mapping, independently of the
architecture.

See :
http://ltt.polymtl.ca/packages/lttv-0.10.0-pre14-17072008.tar.gz
http://ltt.polymtl.ca/packages/markers-userspace-0.5.tar.bz2

I'll be more than happy to answer your questions.

Mathieu


> -- 
> I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
> signature is too narrow to contain.
>

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-22 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-17 15:57 [patch 0/4] Port KVM-trace to tracepoints Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 15:57 ` [patch 1/4] kvm move VMCS Encodings to system headers Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 15:57 ` [patch 2/4] kvm move VMCS read " Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 15:57 ` [patch 3/4] KVM move register read-write " Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 15:57 ` [patch 4/4] KVM-trace port to tracepoints Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 16:49   ` Jan Kiszka
2008-07-17 17:28     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-22 16:04       ` Jan Kiszka
2008-07-22 18:46         ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-23  7:49           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-23  8:08             ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-23  8:55               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-23  9:32                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-23  9:53                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-23 13:15                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-23 10:03                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-23 10:08                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-23 10:13                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-23 13:20               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 16:52   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-17 17:04     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-22 18:42 ` [patch 0/4] Port KVM-trace " Avi Kivity
2008-07-22 19:16   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-22 19:31     ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-22 19:54       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-22 22:12       ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2008-07-27 10:11         ` [patch 0/4] Port KVM-trace to tracepoints -> LTTng ? Avi Kivity
2008-07-28  0:54           ` [RFC] LTTng merge plan Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-29 16:18             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-29 17:01               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                 ` <20080729211543.GB17097@redhat.com>
2008-07-29 22:41                   ` module-placed markers/tracepoints Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-29 23:01                     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-29 23:19                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-30  1:40                     ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-30  2:27                       ` [PATCH] Module : call synchronize_sched() between module exit() and free Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-30  3:04                         ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-30  4:05                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-30 11:40                         ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-30 14:09                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-31  0:54                             ` Rusty Russell

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