From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Suresh Siddha" <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
"Wim Van Sebroeck" <wim@iguana.be>,
"Pádraig Brady" <P@draigBrady.com>,
"Andi Kleen" <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"arjan@linux.intel.com" <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
"roland@redhat.com" <roland@redhat.com>,
"drepper@redhat.com" <drepper@redhat.com>,
"mikpe@it.uu.se" <mikpe@it.uu.se>,
"chrisw@sous-sol.org" <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/9] x86, xsave: xsave/xrstor support
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:50:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080731225004.GD22426@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0807311531271.3277@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>
* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > But thats not what I see with for ex with, w83627hf_wdt.c
> >
> > Its done at the module_init time. (while I thought it should be
> > really done when some user level app opens the device, probably its
> > poorly written to take care if the kernel panics before starting
> > userland. but kernel can even die before the watchdog driver load
> > aswell ;-)
>
> Yeah, that's a _really_ broken watchdog timer driver. There's no way
> that it's correct to start the watchdog at init time, at least when
> compiled in.
>
> It also looks to me like it's not even probing for the hardware - it's
> just assuming it's there. That's scary. Am I missing something?
>
> It really shouldn't be activated until it's opened. And it really
> shouldn't just write to ports randomly without checking that they make
> sense...
there are a handful of old ISA-ish drivers that can crash randconfig
kernels in various ways. [indefinite lockups, crashes, stomped-over
hardware, non-working keyboard, etc.]
I mapped most of them out via many months of trial-and-error - but it
would still be nice to have some separate config option to disable the
known ones. CONFIG_ALLOW_NON_GENERIC or something like that - which i
would unset in the randconfig runs.
( They are not CONFIG_BROKEN per se, because often it's hardware that
cannot be probed in any reliable way - the driver just assumes it's
there. )
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-31 22:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-29 17:29 [patch 0/9] x86, xsave: xsave/xrstor support Suresh Siddha
2008-07-29 17:29 ` [patch 1/9] x86, xsave: xsave cpuid feature bits Suresh Siddha
2008-07-29 17:29 ` [patch 2/9] x86, xsave: enable xsave/xrstor on cpus with xsave support Suresh Siddha
2008-07-29 17:29 ` [patch 3/9] x86, xsave: context switch support using xsave/xrstor Suresh Siddha
2008-07-29 17:29 ` [patch 4/9] x86, xsave: dynamically allocate sigframes fpstate instead of static allocation Suresh Siddha
2008-07-29 17:29 ` [patch 5/9] x86, xsave: reorganization of signal save/restore fpstate code layout Suresh Siddha
2008-07-29 17:29 ` [patch 6/9] x86, xsave: xsave/xrstor specific routines Suresh Siddha
2008-07-29 17:29 ` [patch 7/9] x86, xsave: struct _fpstate extensions to include extended state information Suresh Siddha
2008-07-29 17:29 ` [patch 8/9] x86, xsave: save/restore the extended state context in sigframe Suresh Siddha
2008-07-29 17:29 ` [patch 9/9] x86, xsave: update xsave header bits during ptrace fpregs set Suresh Siddha
2008-07-29 23:09 ` [patch 0/9] x86, xsave: xsave/xrstor support H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-29 23:29 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-07-29 23:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-30 10:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-30 16:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-30 17:08 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-07-30 17:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-30 18:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-30 21:46 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-07-30 23:41 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-07-31 21:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-31 21:58 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-07-31 22:14 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-31 22:19 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-07-31 22:36 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-31 22:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-31 22:50 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-08-01 2:06 ` Rene Herman
2008-08-01 9:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-01 14:27 ` Rene Herman
2008-08-01 14:49 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-01 15:19 ` Rene Herman
2008-08-01 15:44 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-01 16:03 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-31 22:48 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-31 22:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-13 11:00 ` Ingo Molnar
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