From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
"Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Introduce down_try() so we can move away from down_trylock()
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:33:30 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200808031833.32048.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808011022230.3277@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>
On Saturday 02 August 2008 03:26:33 Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > Introduce down_try()
>
> I hate that name. Everybody else uses "xxx_trylock()", now you introduce a
> short version of that that just has the same return value as everybody
> else except for semaphores that admittedly were odd.
spin_lock => spin_trylock, so down => trydown. But everyone hated that, too.
I love your suggestion tho. Oh wait, you didn't make one...
> Also, all actual _users_ of down_trylock() seem to be prime candidates for
> turning into mutexes anyway - with the _possible_ exception of the console
> semaphore which has problems with the mutex debugging code.
And Willy is working on that. Still. Frankly, I gave up waiting.
> > Andrew suggested introducing "down_try" as a wrapper now, to make
> > the transition easier.
>
> The transition to WHAT? To crap?
>
> There is no need to introduce yet another temporary thing just to make
> things even _more_ confusing.
And so my patch series replaces all 21 of them. It's a trivial replace,
unlike sem -> mutex.
> Guys, some quality control and critical thinking, please.
Good idea. If we'd done that we wouldn't have the down_trylock() brain
damage.
Rusty.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-03 8:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-29 0:15 [PATCH] Introduce down_try() so we can move away from down_trylock() Rusty Russell
2008-07-29 0:27 ` Paul Menage
2008-07-29 13:01 ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-29 16:21 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-07-29 23:56 ` Rusty Russell
2008-08-01 17:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-01 17:40 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-01 18:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-03 8:33 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2008-08-03 13:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-03 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-03 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-04 3:28 ` Rusty Russell
2008-08-04 5:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-04 7:57 ` Rusty Russell
2008-08-04 8:45 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 11:43 ` Rusty Russell
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