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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, davej@redhat.com,
	rdreier@cisco.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	davem@davemloft.net, jeremy@goop.org, hugh@veritas.com,
	mingo@elte.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arjan@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] workaround minor lockdep bug triggered by mm_take_all_locks
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:12:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080804221257.GF12464@duo.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080804144114.e323a47f.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 02:41:14PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> lockdep will warn here about the ranking violation.  As soon as it
> occurs.  Even though the system never deadlocked.

Yes I wasn't aware of the AB BA feature that doesn't require the
inversion to happen on both cpus at the same time, despite having
spent weeks when it was kernel crashing systems at boot (which shows
it's not immediately easy to understand how that thing works by
reading the code).

static DEFINE_MUTEX(a);
static DEFINE_MUTEX(b);
static DEFINE_MUTEX(c);

void f1(void)
{
	mutex_lock(c);
	mutex_lock(a);
	mutex_lock(b);
	mutex_unlock(c);
	mutex_unlock(a);
	mutex_unlock(b);
}

void f2(void)
{
	mutex_lock(c);
	mutex_lock(b);
	mutex_lock(a);
	mutex_unlock(c);
	mutex_unlock(b);
	mutex_unlock(a);
}

void f3(void)
{
	mutex_lock(a);
	mutex_lock(b);
	mutex_unlock(a);
	mutex_unlock(b);
}

void f4(void)
{
	mutex_lock(b);
	mutex_lock(a);
	mutex_unlock(b);
	mutex_unlock(a);
}

void doit(void)
{
	f1();
	f2();
	stop_machine(f3);
	stop_machine(f4);
}

> It's very very clever and powerful.

I'm curious, does it also handle the above? I mean not a big deal to
refactor the code to shutdown lockdep warnings, but it doesn't look
that clever to me. It seems just clever the minimum enough to be
useful with its AB BA memory.

Now I see lockdep has a good point to exist, for the lock inversion
"memory" but this is by no mean a feature I can remotely like in
general given how inaccurate and prone for false positives it is. It
looks more a necessary evil to deal with, like I tried to do with my
patch (even before understanding it was more useful than what I
thought initially).

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-04 22:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-04 13:03 [RFC][PATCH 0/7] lockdep Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-04 13:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/7] lockdep: Fix combinatorial explosion in lock subgraph traversal Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-05  8:34   ` David Miller
2008-08-05  8:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-13  3:48       ` Tim Pepper
2008-08-13 10:56         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-04 13:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/7] lockdep: lock_set_subclass - reset a held locks subclass Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-05  8:35   ` David Miller
2008-08-04 13:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/7] lockdep: re-annotate scheduler runqueues Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-05  8:35   ` David Miller
2008-08-04 13:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/7] lockdep: shrink held_lock structure Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-05 16:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-06  7:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-04 13:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/7] lockdep: map_acquire Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-04 13:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/7] lockdep: lock protection locks Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-04 13:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/7] lockdep: spin_lock_nest_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-04 14:07   ` Roland Dreier
2008-08-04 14:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-04 14:26       ` Roland Dreier
2008-08-04 14:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-04 14:53           ` Dave Jones
2008-08-04 14:56             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-04 16:26               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-08-04 16:38                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-04 17:27                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-08-04 17:46                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-08-04 17:57                       ` [PATCH] workaround minor lockdep bug triggered by mm_take_all_locks Andrea Arcangeli
2008-08-04 18:48                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-04 18:56                           ` Roland Dreier
2008-08-04 19:05                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-04 20:15                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-08-04 20:37                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-04 21:09                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-08-04 21:14                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-08-04 21:30                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-08-04 21:41                                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-04 22:12                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2008-08-04 21:42                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-04 22:30                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-08-04 23:38                                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-05  0:47                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-08-04 21:27                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-04 21:54                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-08-04 21:57                                 ` David Miller
2008-08-05  2:00                                 ` Roland Dreier
2008-08-05  2:18                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-08-05 12:02                                     ` Roland Dreier
2008-08-05 12:20                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-08-04 18:48                     ` [RFC][PATCH 7/7] lockdep: spin_lock_nest_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-04 21:32                   ` David Miller
2008-08-04 18:06   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-04 18:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-04 19:26       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-04 19:31         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-04 19:39           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-04 20:16           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-10-08 15:27           ` Steven Rostedt
2008-10-08 15:43             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-08 16:03               ` Steven Rostedt
2008-10-08 16:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-08 16:53                   ` Steven Rostedt
2008-10-08 15:52             ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-08 17:18               ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-07 11:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-07 11:25 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/7] lockdep: annotate mm_take_all_locks() Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-07 11:25 ` [RFC][PATCH 9/7] mm: fix mm_take_all_locks() locking order Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-07 12:14   ` Hugh Dickins
2008-08-07 12:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-07 13:27       ` Hugh Dickins
2008-08-07 21:46   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-08-08  1:34     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-08-08  7:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-11 10:08 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/7] lockdep Ingo Molnar

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