From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
mingo@elte.hu, tglx@linutronix.de, marcin.slusarz@gmail.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
rostedt@goodmis.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: robustify printk
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:13:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080808141340.a191c12e.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808081352490.3462@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:57:26 -0700 (PDT)
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 8 Aug 2008, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >
> > Why are we fixing this, btw? The problem has been there forever and
> > people who hack the wakeup code could/should know about it anyway. All
> > they need to do is to disable klogd during development. Did the
> > problem recently become worse for some reason?
>
> It hasn't beemn there forever at all.
>
> Yes, there used to be reliance on the actual _scheduler_ locks. Doign a
> wake_up() would cause runqueue locks etc to be taken.
>
> But the xtime deadlock is fairly recent, and only happened with CFQ, I
> think.
>
> And _that_ is the irritating one. I personally wouldn't mind at all if
> there is some printk() dependency on the core runqueue rq->lock or on the
> RCU locking thing. But look at xtime_lock. THAT is a disaster.
>
> Just grep for it.
>
>
<actually reads stuff>
Yes, not being able to do printk inside xtime_lock would be a disaster.
We decided that about 1.5 years ago last time we added then fixed this
bug (at the time I think I identified multiple already-present printks
inside xtime_lock, on error paths). Did we go and re-add this bug recently
or did we just never fix it? Doesn't matter, I guess.
> So I personally actually like the RCU version best. Yes, it still depends
> on really core locking. But it's really core and low-level and _confined_
> locking, where a comment in a single place would probably suffice. Compare
> that to all the places where we take the xtime_lock for writing!
Sure, the cant-printk-in-rcupreempt.c limitation should be quite
acceptable.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-08 21:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-24 12:24 [PATCH 0/2] printk vs rq->lock and xtime lock Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-24 12:24 ` [PATCH 1/2] printk_nowakeup() Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-24 12:24 ` [PATCH 2/2] time: xtime lock vs printk Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-24 14:21 ` Daniel Walker
2008-03-24 14:31 ` [PATCH 0/2] printk vs rq->lock and xtime lock Marcin Slusarz
2008-03-24 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-24 18:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-24 18:57 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-08 13:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 13:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 16:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-08 17:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 17:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-08 17:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 17:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-08 18:14 ` [PATCH] printk: robustify printk Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 18:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-08 18:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 19:14 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-08 19:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 19:37 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-08 19:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 20:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-08 20:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 20:46 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-08 20:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-08 21:13 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-08-08 20:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-08 19:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-11 10:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 11:03 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 11:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-11 11:42 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 14:15 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-08-11 14:29 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 14:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-11 12:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 12:14 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 11:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-11 11:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 12:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-20 12:40 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-08-20 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-20 13:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 16:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-11 13:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-08 20:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-08 20:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-08 21:35 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-08 23:02 ` David Miller
2008-08-09 0:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-08 17:52 ` [PATCH 0/2] printk vs rq->lock and xtime lock Steven Rostedt
2008-03-24 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
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