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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	gus3 <musicman529@yahoo.com>,
	Szabolcs Szakacsits <szaka@ntfs-3g.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: XFS vs Elevators (was Re: [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:01:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080825120146.GC20960@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080825015922.GP5706@disturbed>

Dave Chinner wrote:
> To keep on top of this, we keep adding new variations and types and
> expect the filesystems to make best use of them (without
> documentation) to optimise for certain situations. Example - the
> new(ish) BIO_META tag that only CFQ understands. I can change the
> way XFS issues bios to use this tag to make CFQ behave the same way
> it used to w.r.t. metadata I/O from XFS, but then the deadline and
> AS will probably regress because they don't understand that tag and
> still need the old optimisations that just got removed. Ditto for
> prioritised bio dispatch - CFQ supports it but none of the others
> do.


There's nothing wrong with adding BIO_META (for example) and other
hints in _principle_.  You should be able to ignore it with no adverse
effects.  If its not used by a filesystem (and there's nothing else
competing to use the same disk), I would hope to see the same
performance as other kernels which don't have it.

If the elevators are being changed in such a way that old filesystem
code which doesn't use new hint bits is running significantly slower,
surely that's blatant elevator regression, and that's where the bugs
should be reported and fixed?

-- Jamie

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-25 12:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-20  2:45 [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-20  7:43 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-20  8:22   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-08-20 18:47     ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-20 16:13   ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-20 21:25     ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-20 21:39       ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-20 21:48         ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-21  2:12         ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21  2:46           ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-21  5:15             ` XFS vs Elevators (was Re: [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system) Dave Chinner
2008-08-21  6:00               ` gus3
2008-08-21  6:14                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21  7:00                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-21  8:53                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21  9:33                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-21 17:08                         ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-22  2:29                           ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-25  1:59                             ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-25  4:32                               ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-25 12:01                               ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-08-26  3:07                                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-26  3:50                                   ` david
2008-08-27  1:20                                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-27 21:54                                       ` david
2008-08-28  1:08                                         ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 14:52                       ` Chris Mason
2008-08-21  6:04               ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21  8:07                 ` Aaron Carroll
2008-08-21  8:25                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 11:02                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-08-21 15:00                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-08-21 17:10                   ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-21 17:33                     ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-22  2:24                       ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-22  6:49                         ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-08-22 12:44                         ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-23 12:52                           ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-21 11:53                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-21 15:56                   ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 12:51       ` [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system Chris Mason
2008-08-26 10:16     ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-26 16:54       ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-27 18:13         ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-27 18:19         ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-29  6:29           ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-29  8:40             ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-29 10:51               ` konishi.ryusuke
2008-08-29 11:04                 ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-29 10:45             ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-29 16:37               ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-29 19:16                 ` Jörn Engel
2008-09-01 12:25                   ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-20  9:47 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-21  4:57   ` Ryusuke Konishi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-08-21 11:05 XFS vs Elevators (was Re: [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system) Martin Knoblauch
2008-08-21 15:59 ` Dave Chinner

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