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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
To: Ryusuke Konishi <konishi.ryusuke@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:19:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080827181904.GD1371@logfs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200808261654.AA00216@capsicum.lab.ntt.co.jp>

On Wed, 27 August 2008 01:54:30 +0900, Ryusuke Konishi wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:16:19 +0200, Jorn Engel wrote:
> >
> >Interesting approach.  Does that mean that every block lookup involves
> >two disk accesses, one for the DAT and one for the actual block?
> 
> Simply stated, it's Yes.
> 
> But the actual number of disk accesses will become fewer because the DAT is 
> cached like regular files and read-ahead is also applied.
> The cache for the DAT works well enough.

Yep.  It is not a bad tradeoff.  You pay with some extra seeks when the
filesystem is freshly mounted but gain a lot of simplicity in garbage
collection.

More questions.  I believe the first two answer are no, but would like
to be sure.
Do you support compression?
Do you do wear leveling or scrubbing?
How does garbage collection work?  In particular, when the filesystem
runs out of free space, do you depend on the userspace daemon to make
some policy decisions or can the kernel make progress on its own?

Jörn

-- 
There are two ways of constructing a software design: one way is to make
it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other is
to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies.
-- C. A. R. Hoare

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-27 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-20  2:45 [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-20  7:43 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-20  8:22   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-08-20 18:47     ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-20 16:13   ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-20 21:25     ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-20 21:39       ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-20 21:48         ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-21  2:12         ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21  2:46           ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-21  5:15             ` XFS vs Elevators (was Re: [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system) Dave Chinner
2008-08-21  6:00               ` gus3
2008-08-21  6:14                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21  7:00                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-21  8:53                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21  9:33                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-21 17:08                         ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-22  2:29                           ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-25  1:59                             ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-25  4:32                               ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-25 12:01                               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-26  3:07                                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-26  3:50                                   ` david
2008-08-27  1:20                                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-27 21:54                                       ` david
2008-08-28  1:08                                         ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 14:52                       ` Chris Mason
2008-08-21  6:04               ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21  8:07                 ` Aaron Carroll
2008-08-21  8:25                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 11:02                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-08-21 15:00                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-08-21 17:10                   ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-21 17:33                     ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-22  2:24                       ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-22  6:49                         ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-08-22 12:44                         ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-23 12:52                           ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-21 11:53                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-21 15:56                   ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 12:51       ` [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system Chris Mason
2008-08-26 10:16     ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-26 16:54       ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-27 18:13         ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-27 18:19         ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2008-08-29  6:29           ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-29  8:40             ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-29 10:51               ` konishi.ryusuke
2008-08-29 11:04                 ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-29 10:45             ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-29 16:37               ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-29 19:16                 ` Jörn Engel
2008-09-01 12:25                   ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-20  9:47 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-21  4:57   ` Ryusuke Konishi

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