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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Stefani Seibold <stefani@seibold.net>,
	Dario Faggioli <raistlin@linux.it>,
	Max Krasnyansky <maxk@qualcomm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:18:14 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200808282218.14469.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080828121436.GN26610@one.firstfloor.org>

On Thursday 28 August 2008 22:14, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > Then people can no longer assume stuff like queue_work_on() etc.. works.
> > Users of such code might depend on it actually running on the specified
> > cpu.
>
> If they assume that they're already buggy because CPU hot unplug will break
> affinities.

It is actually possible (with fairly little work, last time I looked,
maybe it is already integrated in the kernel) to avoid all this kind of
thing from isolated CPUs.

But even then, note that the types of programs using the CPU for long
periods are obviously not going to be run on an average desktop system.
So the responsiveness argument is laughable. Responsive as defined how?
And in relation to what type of systems?

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-28 12:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-19 10:33 [PATCH 0/6] sched: rt-bandwidth fixes Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-19 10:33 ` [PATCH 1/6] sched: rt-bandwidth for user grouping interface Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-19 10:33 ` [PATCH 2/6] sched: rt-bandwidth accounting fix Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-19 18:33   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-08-19 18:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-19 10:33 ` [PATCH 3/6] sched: rt-bandwidth group disable fixes Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-19 10:33 ` [PATCH 4/6] sched: extract walk_tg_tree() Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-19 10:33 ` [PATCH 5/6] sched: rt-bandwidth fixes Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-19 10:33 ` [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-19 11:05   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-19 11:11     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-19 11:42       ` [PATCH] sched: extract walk_tg_tree(), fix Ingo Molnar
2008-08-19 11:17     ` [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default Nick Piggin
2008-08-19 12:59       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-19 18:15         ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-08-20 11:56         ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-26  9:00           ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-26  9:30             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-26  9:44               ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-26 10:29                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-26 11:03                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-26  9:54               ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-26 11:09                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-08-26 11:27                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-26 12:50                     ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-26 13:31                       ` Stefani Seibold
2008-08-26 17:55                         ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-26 21:37                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-08-26 22:49                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-27 10:08                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-28 10:54                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-28 11:09                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-28 11:19                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-28 11:28                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-28 11:50                                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-28 12:00                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-28 12:14                                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-28 12:18                                       ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-08-28 16:19                                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-08-28 16:25                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-28 16:33                                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-28 12:03                             ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-28 13:07                               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-28 13:45                                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-28 12:29                             ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-27 10:04                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-26 13:47                   ` Mark Hounschell
2008-08-26 23:00                     ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-27 18:55                       ` Chris Friesen
2008-08-28 14:15     ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-28 14:30       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-28 14:36         ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-28 15:12           ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-28 15:34             ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-28 15:50               ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-28 17:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-28 18:04                   ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-28 18:10                     ` Darren Hart
2008-08-28 18:16                   ` Mark Hounschell
2008-08-28 18:42                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-28 18:53                       ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-29  7:56                         ` Mike Galbraith
2008-08-29  8:06                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-29  8:47                             ` Mike Galbraith
2008-08-28 19:39                       ` Stefani Seibold
2008-08-28 20:53                       ` Alan Cox
2008-08-30  6:33                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-28 16:33           ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-08-28 17:22             ` John Kacur
2008-08-28 16:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-28 16:15         ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-28 16:29           ` Peter Zijlstra

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