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From: Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>
To: John Reiser <jreiser@BitWagon.com>
Cc: Steve VanDeBogart <vandebo-lkml@NerdBox.Net>,
	jiayingz@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, dkegel@google.com
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] [PATCH 2/6] UML: Don't valgrind userspace
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:12:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080906221231.GA9359@c2.user-mode-linux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48C2EE46.2060509@BitWagon.com>

On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 01:55:34PM -0700, John Reiser wrote:
> > This is effectively appropriating part of the kernel's ABI for
> > valgrind's use.  
> 
> UML is part of the kernel, so getting a memory reference checker (valgrind)
> running in UML is part of the kernel, too.  The concept of "escape from the
> virtualizer" eventually occurs to more than just memory reference checkers.

Irrelevant - what if UML, or anything else for that matter, starts
using CLONE_IO?  All of a sudden, valgrind will start letting those
threads go.

> Why wouldn't that be a race between the next _NR_clone from this thread
> and the next _NR_clone from any other existing thread [in the same
> process]?

Yeah, if you cloned in a signal handler, that would be a problem.

How about sticking the annotation in the thread itself?  This may be
what you're suggesting here - I can't really tell.

> Valgrind can pre-pend a block of code at the start of the new thread,
> but almost immediately that code will want to "unvirtualize."
> Doing so at _NR_clone itself is convenient all around.

  	      		Jeff

-- 
Work email - jdike at linux dot intel dot com

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-06 22:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-29 23:12 [PATCH 0/6] support valgrinding uml Steve VanDeBogart
2008-08-29 23:14 ` [PATCH 1/6] base: Valgrind headers and Kconfig Steve VanDeBogart
2008-09-01  9:32   ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-01 14:06     ` Jeff Dike
2008-09-01 14:22       ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-01 15:47         ` Jeff Dike
2008-08-29 23:15 ` [PATCH 2/6] UML: Don't valgrind userspace Steve VanDeBogart
2008-09-05 16:37   ` [uml-devel] " Jeff Dike
2008-09-06 20:55     ` John Reiser
2008-09-06 22:12       ` Jeff Dike [this message]
2008-08-29 23:16 ` [PATCH 3/6] UML and sched: Annotate stacks Steve VanDeBogart
2008-08-29 23:16 ` [PATCH 4/6] VM: Annotate pagealloc Steve VanDeBogart
2008-08-30 10:57   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-09-03  5:25     ` [uml-devel] " Steve VanDeBogart
2008-09-03  9:35       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-08-29 23:17 ` [PATCH 5/6] slab: Annotate slab Steve VanDeBogart
2008-08-30 10:50   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-09-03  2:54     ` [uml-devel] " John Reiser
2008-09-03  9:39       ` Pekka J Enberg
2008-09-03  5:08     ` Steve VanDeBogart
2008-09-03  9:27       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-09-03  9:40         ` Pekka Enberg
2008-09-03 15:42         ` Steve VanDeBogart
2008-09-04  7:33           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-08-29 23:18 ` [PATCH 6/6] VM: Annotate vmalloc Steve VanDeBogart

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