From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>
Cc: mikhail.kshevetskiy@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
aabdulla@nvidia.com, jgarzik@pobox.com
Subject: Re: forcedeth: option to disable 100Hz timer (try 2)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:36:30 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080910173630.d0d38697.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48C863CC.3010902@shaw.ca>
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:18:20 -0600
Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 23:34:35 +0400
> > Mikhail Kshevetskiy <mikhail.kshevetskiy@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On some hardware no TX done interrupts are generated, thus special
> >> 100Hz timer interrupt is required to handle this situation properly.
> >> Other device do not require that timer interrupt feature.
> >>
> >> Forcedeth has a DEV_NEED_TIMERIRQ flag to mark the broken devices.
> >> Unfortunately, nobody know the actual list of broken devices, so all
> >> device has this flag on. Other problem, this flag is not user visible,
> >> so the kernel recompilation is required to disable timer interrupts and
> >> test a device.
> >>
> >> This patch add a "disable_timerirq" option to disable interrupt
> >> timer mentioned above. This may be extremely useful for laptop users.
> >
> > Why do you feel that the timer-based completions need to be disabled?
> > Is it causing some problem?
>
> 100 unnecessary CPU wakeups per second imposes some power usage cost,
> especially on laptops with CPU C-states..
Is that the only reason for the change? We still don't know...
Anyway, it's certainly _sufficient_ reason, however the implementation
is pretty sad - most people won't even know that the option exists so
they'll continue to chew more power than they need to.
How do we fix this? Perhaps disable the timer by default, then wait
for the first tx timeout and then enable the timer at that stage, while
printing a message saying "add module option <foo> to prevent this
once-off timeout from happening"?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-11 0:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <fa.iCGOiwuSYhYKpu85Kihny1t9YbA@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.4uZtuq0waBlpfBb/4OLq4bM5Pj8@ifi.uio.no>
2008-09-11 0:18 ` forcedeth: option to disable 100Hz timer (try 2) Robert Hancock
2008-09-11 0:36 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-09-11 4:19 ` Mikhail Kshevetskiy
2008-09-11 4:25 ` Robert Hancock
2008-09-11 5:19 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-11 5:31 ` Mikhail Kshevetskiy
2008-09-11 19:14 ` Alan Cox
[not found] <baho5-34g-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-09-10 11:16 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-09-09 19:34 Mikhail Kshevetskiy
2008-09-10 23:31 ` Andrew Morton
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